I already told you that I didn't even count the 57 yard attempt in my scenario. Those 3 misses actually happened. How in the world does it benefit the Jets if SD makes those FGs? You want to assume that the only thing that changes in the game is the Jets not going into prevent (which is a nothing but an excuse for the Jets D), and you assume the Jets stop the Chargers from scoring. That is not the only logical thing that changes. We can have a good idea of how things would have changed based on what actually happened. A couple of made FGs isn't going to change a 17 to 14 game into a 30 to 27 game. That makes no sense. Made FGs by SD are not going to help the Jets get a first down on any of their (4) 3 and out drives in the first half. To think otherwise is crazy.
Again, you fail to understand a very simple point I made. Its ok, once u turn 12, you'll start understanding better, but I'll try again. U accused me of giving all the benefit to the Jets if Chargers make both of those FGs, when u fail to realize that assuming Chargers convert those FGs is a direct benefit to the Chargers while ALL ur predictions are directly against the Jets. And a couple of made FGs changes the entire game so a 30-27 game is as likely as a 17-14 game, but dont stress it. Its useless to discuss this.
Nope, the game changes completely if Brien hits that FG. If Brien made the FG with a minute left, Pitt would have returned the ensuing kickoff for a TD and the game never would have gone to OT. See how ridiculous that is?
Wow...another brainless comment. A made FG in OT would not have ended the game? That's why I said "at least one of those FGs". And for your kind information, Steelers tried their best to get in to FG range after the first missed FG with 1 minute to go in regulation...and they failed. That's something we do know and you can't argue about it...but knowing you, you'll make another crazy argument.
The Jets corner was playing 10 yards off the WR a lot throughout the whole game. That doesn't mean they were in prevent, or that they were ok with giving up 10 yards at a time. Just because they went 63 yards in 7 plays does not mean that they allowed around 10 yards a play. The Chargers actually gained 83 yards on 7 plays and gained a huge chunk of it on just 3 plays. The idea of a prevent is to prevent big plays and make the O take as much time off the clock as possible. The Jets failed on both accounts if they were in prevent. They were not. The Jets were not even in a soft zone on that last drive. They were rushing 5 guys and the other corners were right on the receivers. Very similar to how they were playing D in the first half. Take a look:
They actually played further off the receivers in the first half than they did when you say they were in prevent.
Congratulations! You have great copy pasting skills. Did u stop to even think the second play might just be zone coverage? Or just an invitation to try to pass to the outside WR while the inside corner tries to jump the route? I don't know what happened on that play and neither am I interested, but such packages are found all over the game. That doesn't mean a prevent D is not a prevent D.
The Jets D played great, but they got help with a couple of turnovers and missed FGs.
LMAO...they got help with a couple of turnovers and missed FGs. Care to explain how they got help on the turnovers? And care to explain how Chargers were forced to kick those FGs in the first place? Again, two TDs by Chargers. One off a miscommunication, and one against a prevent D.
We are talking about how the game changes if SD makes the FGs. That is what this whole debate has been about. SD missing those FGs played a huge role in the Jets win. You disagree by telling me how the game changes if they had made those FGs, but only apply changes to the game that benefit the Jets. You can't include made FGs as a game changing benefit to SD when we are talking about how the game changes based on making those FGs. That is what the whole debate is about. How the game changes if SD makes the FGs. You only consider how the game changes for the Jets benefit when you say SD still goes down 17 to 13 and that the Jets don't go into prevent and stop SD from scoring. You don't consider how it changes things for the Chargers benefit as well.
You bring up the point that SD should have made those FGs and then continue to scramble for excuses why SD would win. I say Jets win even if they score because the benefit needs to be given to BOTH teams. SD get the benefit (for discussion's sake) by converted FGs, Jets get benefit of not playing prevent D. I say SD doesn't score the TD based on how that team played throughout the earlier 57 minutes (1 TD off miscommunication).
And the Jets first TD came off a turnover which gave the Jets the ball on the SD 15 and the second came on a missed tackle. Who cares? They wouldn't have needed to stop Green had they made the FGs.
Again, they couldn't stop Greene when they needed it the most. Which means that we KNOW SD couldn't make an important stop at clutch moment. Don't dismiss that with another one of ur bs excuses.
Then you must think the 08 Dolphins were a strong playoff team. :up:
Now you are talking about ONE team, not three playoff teams from the same year...
Cincy beat the Ravens and Steelers twice each, the main reason why one of them missed the playoffs and the other team missed division title.
Eagles and Cowboys shared an 11-5 record while they faced each other twice AND faced the SB champs from the previous year, Giants twice. Again, we are not talking about one team here...we are talking about three teams.
