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Ronnie Brown's production NOT HIS FAULT.

From Saban's PC yesterday:
(On if Brown needs more touches next season) – “Well he had (220) in 13 games. How many is that per game? I haven’t sat down and divided this all out. I would say that 15 to 18 to 20 is probably where you want him to be.”




15-20 touches per game? You've got to be kidding me. So let's get this straight and do some math.

Nick wants a maximum average of 10 carries per half from Ronnie Brown, 5 per quarter, to a runningback that averaged 4.3 yards per carry in 2006? That's the MAXIMUM, so the gameplan may even be less, to the 15-18 range.

MINIMUM: 15 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 64.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 20 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 86 yards per game

So even if he got 20 carries, we're limiting our best playmaker from getting his 100 yard game.

From our franchise runningback, I want to see the ball on his hands atleast 25-30 carries per game. He is our best playmaker averaging 4.3 yards per rush on this pathetic excuse of an offensive line, and it became obvious by Week 4 that our passing game was non existant.

MINIMUM: 25 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 107.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 30 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 129 yards per game

I know it doesn't always work out the way the calculations say, but it's proven that to stay within the game, you must keep the running game honest. And those stats show significant results if you give the ball to our best playmaker. The running game opens everything up for the passing game and the playaction.

There have been several times this season where our running game with Ronnie has worked very well, and we abandon it in the 2nd half. I can think of one on the top of my head, against the Buffalo Bills in September, where Ronnie Brown was running all over them in the 1st half, and we abandon the run in the 2nd half limiting him to 1 WHOLE carry the entire second half.

The philosophy Saban used was not good; it limits your runningback from big play capabilities. Ronnie Brown is the type of back that gets stronger the more he gets the ball on his hands. I know you can't expect a running back to carry the load 30 times a game every game, but you have to evaluate those type of things. We were 3-0 when he had the ball over 25 carries this season. I hope to see a better game plan when running our offense next season. I would hate if they under utilize Ronnie Brown AGAIN in 2007.
 
i think 20 is plenty, with a better line the average will rise. give the ball to ricky or sammy also.
 
NOw a days in the NFL, u don't wanna kill your starting RB. Nick could have been visioning Ricky back next year, and thinking if I can get Ronnie 15 or 20 carries and Ricky 10+ carries, that would be formidable.

However both RB's seem to play better with more carries, so I don't know. All I know is I agree with you fully in saying Ronnie Brown is our biggest playmaker on offense and needs the ball.

2007 needs to be about Ronnie Brown, its time for him to become a top RB in this league and only the way we use him is gonna determine that.
 
I say since our QB position is up in thier air, and has been for the last ten years, we should become more groyund and pound, get some O-Line that is good pushing up front and creating gaps (our O line right now does a decent job but could be better) Then we get Ronnie and Ricky together Bada Bing Bada Boom, play to our strengths and with our awesome defense we'd make it to the playoffs. Even with a mediocre passing game.
 
From our franchise runningback, I want to see the ball on his hands atleast 25-30 carries per game.

You realize that's 400-480 carries which is more then what Ricky Williams was taking on when he was complaining about too many carries. Even with Larry cracking the record he's still pissed that the Chiefs are running him into the ground.

Ideal would be to get Ronnie 275 carries and then Ricky another 125 carries (or whoever the backup will be next year if they finally ditch Ricky). Keeps your backs fresh for those days when they DO need to have 30-35 carries.
 
From Saban's PC yesterday:
(On if Brown needs more touches next season) – “Well he had (220) in 13 games. How many is that per game? I haven’t sat down and divided this all out. I would say that 15 to 18 to 20 is probably where you want him to be.â€Â




15-20 touches per game? You've got to be kidding me. So let's get this straight and do some math.

Nick wants a maximum average of 10 carries per half from Ronnie Brown, 5 per quarter, to a runningback that averaged 4.3 yards per carry in 2006? That's the MAXIMUM, so the gameplan may even be less, to the 15-18 range.

MINIMUM: 15 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 64.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 20 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 86 yards per game

So even if he got 20 carries, we're limiting our best playmaker from getting his 100 yard game.

From our franchise runningback, I want to see the ball on his hands atleast 25-30 carries per game. He is our best playmaker averaging 4.3 yards per rush on this pathetic excuse of an offensive line, and it became obvious by Week 4 that our passing game was non existant.

MINIMUM: 25 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 107.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 30 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 129 yards per game

I know it doesn't always work out the way the calculations say, but it's proven that to stay within the game, you must keep the running game honest. And those stats show significant results if you give the ball to our best playmaker. The running game opens everything up for the passing game and the playaction.

There have been several times this season where our running game with Ronnie has worked very well, and we abandon it in the 2nd half. I can think of one on the top of my head, against the Buffalo Bills in September, where Ronnie Brown was running all over them in the 1st half, and we abandon the run in the 2nd half limiting him to 1 WHOLE carry the entire second half.

I hope to see a better game plan when running our offense next season. I would hate if they under utilize Ronnie Brown AGAIN in 2007.

Nice post... I agree with you.
I tend to blame Mularkey for not using Ronnie enough.
He has averaged 4.3 yrds per carry this year, and 4.4 yrds per carry
last year. And all behind a less than average O-line..
 
You realize that's 400-480 carries which is more then what Ricky Williams was taking on when he was complaining about too many carries. Even with Larry cracking the record he's still pissed that the Chiefs are running him into the ground.

Ideal would be to get Ronnie 275 carries and then Ricky another 125 carries (or whoever the backup will be next year if they finally ditch Ricky). Keeps your backs fresh for those days when they DO need to have 30-35 carries.

Not only that, but if the minimum is 107.5 yards per game, he'd have a 1,720 yard season. Nice, but not very realistic. If you want to give him a maximum average of 129 yards per game, you're looking at a season of 2,064 yards.

If he can get 1400-1500 yards he's doing very well for us.
 
From Saban's PC yesterday:
(On if Brown needs more touches next season) – “Well he had (220) in 13 games. How many is that per game? I haven’t sat down and divided this all out. I would say that 15 to 18 to 20 is probably where you want him to be.â€Â




15-20 touches per game? You've got to be kidding me. So let's get this straight and do some math.

Nick wants a maximum average of 10 carries per half from Ronnie Brown, 5 per quarter, to a runningback that averaged 4.3 yards per carry in 2006? That's the MAXIMUM, so the gameplan may even be less, to the 15-18 range.

MINIMUM: 15 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 64.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 20 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 86 yards per game

So even if he got 20 carries, we're limiting our best playmaker from getting his 100 yard game.

From our franchise runningback, I want to see the ball on his hands atleast 25-30 carries per game. He is our best playmaker averaging 4.3 yards per rush on this pathetic excuse of an offensive line, and it became obvious by Week 4 that our passing game was non existant.

MINIMUM: 25 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 107.5 yards per game
MAXIMUM: 30 carries x 4.3 yards per rush = 129 yards per game

I know it doesn't always work out the way the calculations say, but it's proven that to stay within the game, you must keep the running game honest. And those stats show significant results if you give the ball to our best playmaker. The running game opens everything up for the passing game and the playaction.

There have been several times this season where our running game with Ronnie has worked very well, and we abandon it in the 2nd half. I can think of one on the top of my head, against the Buffalo Bills in September, where Ronnie Brown was running all over them in the 1st half, and we abandon the run in the 2nd half limiting him to 1 WHOLE carry the entire second half.

I hope to see a better game plan when running our offense next season. I would hate if they under utilize Ronnie Brown AGAIN in 2007.

While I agree he need's more touches, RB's that get 25-30 carries a game tend to not last that long.. Here's a few workhorses that burned out quick..

Priest Holmes
Terrell Davis
Jamal Anderson
Jamal Lewis (hasn't been the same since his 2000 yd season)

Of course there are exceptions, but I think 20 is a good number, plus you have to take into account his receptions..
 
NOw a days in the NFL, u don't wanna kill your starting RB. Nick could have been visioning Ricky back next year, and thinking if I can get Ronnie 15 or 20 carries and Ricky 10+ carries, that would be formidable.

However both RB's seem to play better with more carries, so I don't know. All I know is I agree with you fully in saying Ronnie Brown is our biggest playmaker on offense and needs the ball.

2007 needs to be about Ronnie Brown, its time for him to become a top RB in this league and only the way we use him is gonna determine that.

The top RB's all had over 300 carries. If he gets 20 carries a game, that's 320 carries - at 4 yds/carry that's 1280 yards. That would put him at #8 in the NFL. At 4.2 ypc, he is #7. That is fine, if you have other backs to pick up the slack.

We certainly could have used him a bit more. An offense can be efficient and non-predictable - yet still get a number of carries out of the RB.

The problem is both the offensive coordination and the line play.
 
I hate to quote Ron Jaworski but Points come out of the passing game.

Further, I believe Larry Johnson broke Jamal Anderson's single season record for number of carries or came darn close to it. Will Larry hit the wall and be out of the league like JA was shorlty after the Falcons Super Bowl season? Who knows?

The duration of NFL RB is short enough. So, why over use an RB like it appears the Chiefs are doing? I personally would like to see Ronnie be used like Tomlinson & be as productive for as long as Curtis Martin was.
 
In the games where he had at least 20 carries, we were 3-2. In games where Ronnie had 25+ carries, we were 3-0.
 
doesn't suprise me that Ronnie gets a free pass on production even if some backs with lesser carries did more. Ronnie is not a bust but he is not a superstar either. He finsished 23rd in overall rushing yards and and only had 5 rushing Td's. I think we can wait to annoint him the next coming for a little bit.
 
doesn't suprise me that Ronnie gets a free pass on production even if some backs with lesser carries did more. Ronnie is not a bust but he is not a superstar either. He finsished 23rd in overall rushing yards and and only had 5 rushing Td's. I think we can wait to annoint him the next coming for a little bit.

Seems the last 2-3 games prove otherwise. Averaging 5+ yds a carry the last few games, busting 9 yard runs every series made him legit in my eyes and as well many of the various announcers calling the different games.

Only 5 rushing TDs? You say that like Ronnie had ample runs inside the 10? I mean come on, at least state how many runs he had that didn't go for TDs because Mularkey RARELY ran it inside the twenty.

I'm not surprised some just blatantly seem to bash without cause.
 
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