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Roughing the passer = Put a dress on the QB

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I don't know about you guys, but I am getting sick and tired of these girly roughing the passer rules. If you guys are watching MNF, you know what I'm talking about. What was Jenkins supposed to do righ there?
 
I think they need do away with roughing the QB call unless the QB is unable to walk off the field.
 
We have had 4-5 of those calls and we never get one in return. 3 of them have cost us huge turnovers too and in the browns game everyone remembers the bad call on the Baker TD but it overshadowed the bad call on the hit on Chad. Chad was hit in the head much worse than any of the calls we have gotten against us yet they didn' throw the flag. I really hope that game doesn't come back to haunt us.
 
nyjunc said:
We have had 4-5 of those calls and we never get one in return. 3 of them have cost us huge turnovers too and in the browns game everyone remembers the bad call on the Baker TD but it overshadowed the bad call on the hit on Chad. Chad was hit in the head much worse than any of the calls we have gotten against us yet they didn' throw the flag. I really hope that game doesn't come back to haunt us.
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man...I didn't think Chadly was gunna get up...he's a tough cookie.

I saw some discussion about this, that there should be a 5 yard offense, and then a PF 15 yarder. You can call them any name you want, but the bottom line is that for 32 teams, there are half that many GOOD QB's. They need to be protected. When the game was devised who the hell knew there would be 300 pound men running forty miles an hour.
 
Roman529 said:
I think they need do away with roughing the QB call unless the QB is unable to walk off the field.
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Tell that to Chris Simms he walked off the field right into a hospital operating room to have his ruptured spleen removed. Big Ben is lucky he's still alive after taking 9 sacks vs the ravens. Perhaps your just joking or maybe you're not but where will your team be the day Joey gets throttled and can't walk off on his own? We are lucky we haven't seen a QB die on the playing field already and I'd rather see a borderline RTP call than a player disabled for life of worse.
 
all i know is that there should be a ref in a booth watching all the plays. If a ref on the field calls a penalty and the ref in the booth, watching the film, can clearly see that there was no penalty, the flag should be picked up.

example:

bills patriots game a few years back. Fletcher hits Brady. Ref calls a 15 yard personal foul for helmet to helmet on the QB. but the replay clearly shows that the helmets NEVER touched, and bradys head shot back because of the hit to his body not his head. refs didnt care, and still gave them the 15 yards. :fire:

im just saying that some things are judgemnt calls, and others things are facts. A ref in the booth would be able to see what happened, and in cases that are not judgemnt calls, like helmet to helmet, they can make the correct call. thats all we want... the correct call.
 
Aqua4Ever04 said:
Roughing the passer = Put a dress on the QB

I don't know about you guys, but I am getting sick and tired of these girly roughing the passer rules. If you guys are watching MNF, you know what I'm talking about. What was Jenkins supposed to do righ there?
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:lol:

Those were the immortal words of Jack Lambert in a nutshell. Still love him to this day and that interview is one of the reasons.

They need QB protection rules but they've clearly gone way beyond what is needed. These guys are still football players and should be treated as such.
 
ch19079 said:
all i know is that there should be a ref in a booth watching all the plays. If a ref on the field calls a penalty and the ref in the booth, watching the film, can clearly see that there was no penalty, the flag should be picked up.

example:

bills patriots game a few years back. Fletcher hits Brady. Ref calls a 15 yard personal foul for helmet to helmet on the QB. but the replay clearly shows that the helmets NEVER touched, and bradys head shot back because of the hit to his body not his head. refs didnt care, and still gave them the 15 yards. :fire:

im just saying that some things are judgemnt calls, and others things are facts. A ref in the booth would be able to see what happened, and in cases that are not judgemnt calls, like helmet to helmet, they can make the correct call. thats all we want... the correct call.
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Yes Penalties should be reviewable.
Especially since Offciating has shown nio signs of improvement.
 
PI is out of control as well.

Do you really think by a CB putting a hand on someones back (not pushing mind you) would really affect someones route? I don't think so. CB's have a hard enough time as it is..

Oh..I would also change the lame tuck/forward pass rule. There is plenty of times you see a QBs hand going forward (ball not out mind you) and it get's knocked out but just cause his hand is going forward it's considered a pass? I don't like it.
 
ch19079 said:
all i know is that there should be a ref in a booth watching all the plays. If a ref on the field calls a penalty and the ref in the booth, watching the film, can clearly see that there was no penalty, the flag should be picked up.
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Come on guys get real. What else should they do, maybe have 11 cameras focused on every position match up so we'll be able to have review tape on evey possible penality that could occur. This will be the beginning of the 8 hr long pro football game. I am assuming that in the days before instant replay there were just as many questionable calls but fans often didn't know it because they didn't get the play run over and over from 5 different angles on their TV's at home or the jumbotrons at the stadiums like we do today. I think the league is doing its best to right a wrong during actual game time but nothings going to be perfect and there are limitations to everything including officiating in a reasonable time frame. The topic was about RTP and I still feel those QB's are vulnerable standing back there while some 300lb lineman bullrushes them. If they allow that to happen with out its limits soon they'll be no QB's left to play the game.
 
MR NFLFAN said:
Come on guys get real. What else should they do, maybe have 11 cameras focused on every position match up so we'll be able to have review tape on evey possible penality that could occur. This will be the beginning of the 8 hr long pro football game. I am assuming that in the days before instant replay there were just as many questionable calls but fans often didn't know it because they didn't get the play run over and over from 5 different angles on their TV's at home or the jumbotrons at the stadiums like we do today. I think the league is doing its best to right a wrong during actual game time but nothings going to be perfect and there are limitations to everything including officiating in a reasonable time frame. The topic was about RTP and I still feel those QB's are vulnerable standing back there while some 300lb lineman bullrushes them. If they allow that to happen with out its limits soon they'll be no QB's left to play the game.
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if i can see a obvious bad call, sitting at home watching the game on tv, then i have at least some confidence in a nfl refs can also see it.

im not talking about settign up 50 cameras and stopping after every play to review. I just dont want a game to be won or lost on a bad call that half of america can see plain as day sitting at home watching it on basic tv. They usually show atleast 1 replay before the next play is called. is it so much to ask that there be a ref watching the same braudcast that i see? i dont think so.
 
MR NFLFAN said:
Come on guys get real. What else should they do, maybe have 11 cameras focused on every position match up so we'll be able to have review tape on evey possible penality that could occur. This will be the beginning of the 8 hr long pro football game. I am assuming that in the days before instant replay there were just as many questionable calls but fans often didn't know it because they didn't get the play run over and over from 5 different angles on their TV's at home or the jumbotrons at the stadiums like we do today. I think the league is doing its best to right a wrong during actual game time but nothings going to be perfect and there are limitations to everything including officiating in a reasonable time frame. The topic was about RTP and I still feel those QB's are vulnerable standing back there while some 300lb lineman bullrushes them. If they allow that to happen with out its limits soon they'll be no QB's left to play the game.
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Every play in college is reviewed from upstairs and the games arent all that long because not every play gets stopped, just the questionable ones.
 
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