Joey 22 said:No it was Kiffin and the good drafting in previos years what made them champions. Gruden is overrated IMO.
Joey 22 said:No they didnt, Hawthorne smoked pot like a week before the combine and will still be a marvelous pick up in the 4th, ala Will Poole, and Yes the Bucs are aiming at Williams, not Smith, same as the Bears, they are aiming at Williams, not Benson.
Phinsfan1980 said:They gave up a ton of picks for a ****ing coach. The Bucs are not smart.
If the Bucs want to make a trade, I really don't care who it's for (with the exception of Ronnie Brown). If they want to move up to #2 to grab M. Williams, great. Then I see Cleveland taking Smith and Chicago taking Benson. Then we can still grab R. Brown at #5.DolphanD said:I think Gruden wanting to trade up for Alex Smith is BS. I think he's targeting Mike Williams.
And I think Griese's contract has it where they could release him after any season and not take a big hit. So Alex could learn behind Brian and Simms. But the whole TB wanting Alex Smith doesn't make sense to me since TB runs the WC offense and Rodgers is the QB for that. I think they ultimately have M.Williams #1 on their board and would select him #2 overall.
yankeehillbilly said:OK, how stupid is that? Smoking pot a week before the combine when you know you will be tested, and millions of dollars riding on the outcome of that test. The actual use of marijuana doesnt bother me, but the lack of a brain does.
Phinsfan1980 said:They gave up a ton of picks for a ****ing coach. The Bucs are not smart.
finfan54 said:If you were a good coach, you would not rest on Brian Griese and Chris Simms. You people are whacked.
igor79 said:i could have sworn they won a superbowl....
Phinsfan1980 said:They gave up a ton of picks for a ****ing coach. The Bucs are not smart.
finsrule84 said:well if we had needed that f****ing coach to get Dan a ring wouldn't you be happy give up all those picks?
cnc66 said:and that investment got them a Superbowl victory. THAT's not so dumb. :wink: