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So with everyone freaking about the running game and OL, here is something to keep in mind. I very much expect the short passing game to be a large part of our running game, similar to what NE did with Brady. We have the players to do it as well. Albert actually led the league his last year in KC with yards on passes caught behind the line of scrimmage. We also have other receivers that can thrive in this type of attack. It also puts pressure on the DL to not always come full blast at the QB and RB. I think this also plays to Tuas strength in the RPO style of offense. He will basically have 3 options in handing off, a short pass which is almost like a sweep, and a pass beyond the line of scrimmage.

While our OL does need to improve, I believe their shortcomings at this point can be minimized with the short passing game assisting the running game....and the athletes we have at WR to take advantage of this scheme. Just my 2 cents.
 
67Stang said:
So with everyone freaking about the running game and OL, here is something to keep in mind. I very much expect the short passing game to be a large part of our running game, similar to what NE did with Brady. We have the players to do it as well. Albert actually led the league his last year in KC with yards on passes caught behind the line of scrimmage. We also have other receivers that can thrive in this type of attack. It also puts pressure on the DL to not always come full blast at the QB and RB. I think this also plays to Tuas strength in the RPO style of offense. He will basically have 3 options in handing off, a short pass which is almost like a sweep, and a pass beyond the line of scrimmage.

While our OL does need to improve, I believe their shortcomings at this point can be minimized with the short passing game assisting the running game....and the athletes we have at WR to take advantage of this scheme. Just my 2 cents.
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It's too early to get worked up about the running game, but using short passes to supplement the run game probably means you don't have a really good run game.

It appears their plan for a power back this year is Malcolm Brown which would blow my mind after the Jordan Howard experience; Howard was a better player too.
 
Absolutely...

Gaskin and Ahmed and lots of receptions will be the running game. We'll run the ball just enough to keep the defenses honest... along with mixing in some throws to Long/Smythe out of rushing formations... but running the ball is NOT what we are going to do, and this is why the extreme overreactions about the Brown rushing attempts on Saturday are so ... so wrong.
 
Rick Cartman said:
It's too early to get worked up about the running game, but using short passes to supplement the run game probably means you don't have a really good run game.

It appears their plan for a power back this year is Malcolm Brown which would blow my mind after the Jordan Howard experience; Howard was a better player too.
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Ya, NE did it for years without a big name running back....I expect the same here.
 
67Stang said:
Ya, NE did it for years without a big name running back....I expect the same here.
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I do too, but it is putting a lot on Tua in his second season. It took Brady a while before he was good enough to shoulder an offense on his own without having a reliable running game to back him up. If Tua is putting up 600+ attempts there are going to be some ugly games.
 
Rick Cartman said:
It's too early to get worked up about the running game, but using short passes to supplement the run game probably means you don't have a really good run game.

It appears their plan for a power back this year is Malcolm Brown which would blow my mind after the Jordan Howard experience; Howard was a better player too.
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Disagree Howard was better. That man has the slowest feet and acceleration I've ever seen on a HB in my life.

Brown may not be all world, but at least it doesn't take him 10 seconds to get going in the direction he wants to.
 
Ferretsquig said:
I do too, but it is putting a lot on Tua in his second season. It took Brady a while before he was good enough to shoulder an offense on his own without having a reliable running game to back him up. If Tua is putting up 600+ attempts there are going to be some ugly games.
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I honestly hate when people point out NE as a good way to build a team.

Their roster was pretty bad for a lot of their run, but having Brady covered up just about every flaw and allowed them to win despite how bad some of those teams were. They had some good defenses but it helps when you're playing from ahead a good portion of the time.

If the idea is that we should be like NE, well...we'd better start with a top 5 All Time QB or it won't work.
 
Maybe... IF we can also run the ball ... those short passes and slants are effective but sooner or later you have to be able to run out of those formations ... looks great on paper ... yeah NE did it ...

We haven't seen it yet ... we've yet to even have an offensive identity .... better hope it doesn't take 6 games to figure it out ... if so we will be talking next years draft position by mid-season
 
utahphinsfan said:
I agree w/ @67Stang.

Quick, short passes to the likes of Wilson, Waddle, Ahmed, & Gaskin is the best way to mask a decent running game & substandard OL play.
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As the OL grows together and improves!

At some point you may need to run for a couple yards.

Can't be the naked boot to Tua every time.
 
mwestberry said:
Maybe... IF we can also run the ball ... those short passes and slants are effective but sooner or later you have to be able to run out of those formations ... looks great on paper ... yeah NE did it ...

We haven't seen it yet ... we've yet to even have an offensive identity .... better hope it doesn't take 6 games to figure it out ... if so we will be talking next years draft position by mid-season
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As I recall, short passes were a staple of the original version of the WCO (B Walsh & Joe Montana).

Further, Holmgren used this concept early in his tenure in Green Bay. Favre to Dorsey Levens was always good for at least 5 yds.
 
Everyone always worries about the Running Game on all teams. That is how we were raised in this game.

however the NFL is different. PA DOESNT need a good running game to work. Key in the Running game is when you do run it be efficient. I am so glad the Bills at least last year used passing to run their offense through.
 
circumstances said:
As the OL grows together and improves!

At some point you may need to run for a couple yards.

Can't be the naked boot to Tua every time.
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Agree.

Lets take the 1st goal line play where Miami settled for a FG as an example. Rather than 3 straight dive plays, Miami could have...

used a jet sweep motion to Bowden or Waddle then had the option to throw an out route to Gesicki in the End zone
 
For sure. Short passing game will be a big part of our running game and that fits Gaskins/Ahmed. Pick your poison Flo said, between the speed at WR and a high-efficiency short passing game led by Tua's accuracy we should, knock on wood, be vastly improved on offense despite lack of completely mature O-Line or RB bruiser.
 
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