Discussion in 'Miami Dolphins Forum' started by DKphin, Feb 12, 2018.
FSUTruth and I are big Derwin fans, so I was jokingly replying to him.
This is what I think the Dolphins should do.
1. Fire Gase and hire a new coach and staff
2. Trade Tannehill.
3. Move on from Landry, Suh, James, Kiko, Branch, Pouncey and any player who costs too much against the cap.
4. Draft a QB
5. If he struggles play his backup right away
6. If his backup struggles play the 3rd stringer right away.
7. Hire a new coach and staff.
8. Don't ever, ever pay anyone, keep the best cap situation in the league. Strictly build the team by good drafting and scouting as soon as anyone gets good and commands a big salary let them walk.
If this doesn't work the same plan will hold true for every season until it does. We will probably suck for a long time but at least this website will be happy.
It depends. Is Miami trying to dump him and in doing so, we get a below average deal? I don't think that's the case.
Then to trade, you need a team that wants him. What team thinks Tannehill is the solution to their qb problem? Not seeing anyone there. He has been out for over a year with the knee. He tried coming back and jacked it up again. So, there's no recent evals. on his play or physical abilities for a team to make a good (For us) trade.
I do find it odd that Ryan is not on social media or in the news showing his desire to be the no.1 guy in a year where speculation of drafting a qb in the 1st round. He has to know the fans want to win again, and that his play will be instrumental in that. I'd like to hear him say that he's rehabbing hard, he can't wait for next season, something about wanting to get back to the playoffs.
Or maybe he knows something like a trade may be in the cards and he's staying close to the vest.
All I know is that the offseason will be full of rumors and potential happenings. If Mayfield lights up the combine, it'll only get worse. Bring on the draft already.
If Mayfield lights it up any more he will go long before 11. I'm guessing all 4 will go top 10 and someone will take Jackson in round 1 as well.
All this speculation that Tannehill cannot recover from ACL but Tom Brady tore ACL & MCL in 2008 and returned the next year to play a full season. The same year Carson Palmer had numerous ligament tears, a shredded ligament, damaged cartilage and a dislocated kneecap. It was reported to be career ending. He returned to play a full season. That was 10 years ago and I'm sure the technology has evolved as well.
This article says the odds are stacked against us and RT17. Most return but a small percentage return to form.
"New research of NFL players finds most with ACL injuries return to play, but only about 80 percent of their prior performance levels. "
"In their sampling, Hall of Fame receiver Jerry Rice remains the only player to play a game in the same season after sustaining an ACL tear. Star players tend to have better odds of returning to play, Mai said, though that could be because other players were already at risk of being cut.
Quarterbacks’ careers are not shortened by ACL injuries, but the number of games they play declines as some end up as backups. Among players who were Pro Bowlers before their injuries, 85 percent returned to play football. Only 30 percent made it back to the Pro Bowl.
For every Brady and Palmer there are 5 other QB's that never make it back to original form.
Easy dude. One of those guys is a HOFamer and the other one would probably have been. James hasn't even been drafted yet
Here is one of my problems if a trade is really considered (it isn't). For now, it appears there are 4 QBs to be taken in the 1st 10 picks. 5-6 if we count teams willing to wait until later in R1 and high R2. On top of that, there COULD be a number of FA QBs available without need of trade and a few more with a trade. Looks to me like there should be more QBs available than there are desperate teams. That doesn't bode well for trades.
For as good as our fans believe RT is I'm not sure how much he'd command in a trade. Besides wouldn't trade him unless I knew we could draft a starter with the pick we acquired.
I don't know how that's going to happen, because some believe he's only worth a seventh
It's somewhere in the middle. I'm not sure we'd get a 1st or 2nd but he's definitely not as bad as some might think
If only it was as easy as you seem to think to just go to the grocery store to pick up an Aaron Rodgers. So yes, lets just throw away what we do have to try to find the elusive elite QB you're creaming for.
and they way it sounds, he's is trading RT before the draft, so you would trade away the only QB you have for a chance at someone who might not work out or even be available. I know many want to move on from Ryan but this is a terrible idea
RT is going nowhere except to the AFC championship game next year. With the Dolphins.
I never said trade him. But I would keep looking to upgrade. Which all his fans think is so asinine to do. Look for an upgrade from a mediocre QB
Yeah I guess I expect too much of a number 8 overall draft pick at the QB position. If Tannehill was drafted in round 2 or 3 he’d be meeting expectations.
I'm talking about the article in the OP
So you're judging him on preconceived expectations of a draft pick. Makes more sense than before but still...
We won't trade him.
There is no such criteria. Why do you guys keep this myth going?? It all should have died forever with Daunte Culpepper. You can void a trade if a team tried to send you a player without disclosing the injury, but you can trade for a dead guy if know it ahead of time and you still want to make the deal.
You guys? What myth? I didn't say you couldn't do it. I asked "who in their right mind is making the trade?"
Nobody needs to disclose anything because EVERYONE already knows Tannehill is coming back from surgery.
No GM is trading a high pick (or any pick) for a player coming off injury WITHOUT a physical.
To be honest, I doubt anyone is willing to step up and trade for a guy who missed the last 20 games in a QB rich draft.
In the last 10 years, how many pro bowl QBs tore their ACL? I suspect there's a serious lack of sample size to draw any conclusions here... And on top of that, Some QBs go to a probowl and never go back even when healthy...
Yes I realize sample size is small. Did you even read the article?
you trade tanny and you end up with case keenum level if that's what he ends up to be jokes on you
Kind of what us fans have been going through for 2 decades anyway unfortunately.
Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Ben Roethlisberger, Joe Flacco, Carson Palmer, Matthew Stafford have all had ACL or MCL tears
Yes dude, but you are forgetting the Dolphins made the playoffs with Tannehill under center. Look, I'm not necessarily a Tannehill fan, but let's give the guy some more positive credit.
It's not like Tannehill properly used his athleticism anyways, he's a pure pocket Passer to me so all he really has to do is step up. He makes all the throws but it would kill me to see open green on the right on 3rd and 5 and he's looking left for Landry.
Again a bunch of drama queens in a Tannehill thread. Who woulda thought...
Philadelphia wouldn’t trade Foles for Tannehill straight up? LOL. Of course they would. In a heartbeat.
A 3rd round pick at best for Tannehill? LOL. He’d get you a 1st even with his medical condition.
Tannehill not being a social media guy is an indication that he’s either not committed to come back or he knows he’s going to be traded? LOL. Social media...enough said.
I think I have never used more than one LOL in the same year. 2018 already breaking some records.
Somebody actually said that, LOL!
I think Matt Moore was under center when we made the playoffs.
Yes dude, and Foles won the SB....but Wentz did all the hard work as did Tannehill.
stop making sense.
Again playing stupid. At least I hope you're playing.
"best since Marino.."?!?! says all we need to know about the last 20ys don't it.
Who will give us a 3rd for a damaged QB?
Well if I was running the team the only starter from 2017 that would start in 2018 would be Tunsil. I'm cutting the dead weight in James, Pouncey, J Thomas, and Timmons and spend the money saved their to improve Center or Guard and signing a RT and taking a guard within the first 3 rounds. The OL needs to be fixed, without a doubt, it's been a joke since 2009.
Actually not even close to that "many".. just the loudest/most OCD about it