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Sarkisian + McD...2 peas in a pod?

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Nice play at the end of the game last night...have we seen this before? 1st + goal on the 1 turns into 3rd + 8? How many times? For all of those who still think McD is a genius play-caller, I have not been impressed since Dec. of the '23 season. I would rather say he calls incredibly stupid plays at the exact wrong times far too often. Kind of like he wants to re-invent the wheel because we all know he is the "smartest" football mind in the room.

I am the LEAST optimistic I have been in many years heading towards the '25 season. I don't care if we had the #1 pick this April, Grier would just pick someone at a position of strength! I do think Weaver will get the defense better, but that offense will be streaky as usual. You can count on success vs. sub-500 teams and very little luck against plus-500 teams. The Bills will dominate us as usual. I also think the Pats will get better with Vrabel (If Kraft has any brain-cells left) + possibly Josh McDaniels mentoring Drake Maye.

Get ready for another wasted season. JMHO.
 
Both can be bad play callers at times, but they arent anything alike. Not even close.
 
Zounds said:
Both can be bad play callers at times, but they arent anything alike. Not even close.
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I was implying that they call these plays at inopportune times. You would think a long-time football coach knows what to call in certain situations.
 
Its easy to label someone a bad play caller because a play didn't work but at the end of the day, Ohio State's DL dominated the LOS so that really limits the possibilities at the goal line.

The comp to the Dolphins is correct but not because of the man at the helm but because Miami has been manhandled at the LOS for 3 years.
 
stillhardcore said:
I was implying that they call these plays at inopportune times. You would think a long-time football coach knows what to call in certain situations.
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Agreed on that, but comparison stops there.

Also, if you watch other NFL games, you see bad play calling all the time - evven from the best teams. Pretty sure I saw Kyle Shanahan with some questionalbe calls recently. I think too many Miami fans just watch Miami games and think its just us. And many of these plays are the right call, but just poorly executed. Need to evaluate playcalling and execution seperatly, since the accountable people are not the same.
 
The Ghost said:
Its easy to label someone a bad play caller because a play didn't work but at the end of the day, Ohio State's DL dominated the LOS so that really limits the possibilities at the goal line.

The comp to the Dolphins is correct but not because of the man at the helm but because Miami has been manhandled at the LOS for 3 years.
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All the more reason to not call plays like that in goal situations. The HC should know his strengths. Our OLine is the weakest position on the team IMO.
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stillhardcore said:
Nice play at the end of the game last night...have we seen this before? 1st + goal on the 1 turns into 3rd + 8? How many times? For all of those who still think McD is a genius play-caller, I have not been impressed since Dec. of the '23 season. I would rather say he calls incredibly stupid plays at the exact wrong times far too often. Kind of like he wants to re-invent the wheel because we all know he is the "smartest" football mind in the room.

I am the LEAST optimistic I have been in many years heading towards the '25 season. I don't care if we had the #1 pick this April, Grier would just pick someone at a position of strength! I do think Weaver will get the defense better, but that offense will be streaky as usual. You can count on success vs. sub-500 teams and very little luck against plus-500 teams. The Bills will dominate us as usual. I also think the Pats will get better with Vrabel (If Kraft has any brain-cells left) + possibly Josh McDaniels mentoring Drake Maye.

Get ready for another wasted season. JMHO.
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great observation. i was thinking of posting the same thread. same point. i was going to emphasize the cost of these backwards runs. we have much too many of them. mcdaniel and sarkisian really are two peas from the same pod. these theoretical offensive genius types, that often seem to have no clue. the dumbest part about doing this on 2nd down is the fact that they went for it on 4th down. one would hope that they should have decided they were in four down territory on first down. therefore you know you have 3 cracks at it still when it is 2nd down. therefore when 2nd and goal from the 1, just keep pushing forward. do a sneak. a quick hitter with the RB again. anything that on balance will move the ball forward. you cannot take a risk of the 3 to 7 yard loss. that was the dumbest thing ever. what could be even dumber is the coach didnt decide to go for it on 4th, until then. that would not be thinking ahead, like you are supposed to. this is the type of thing i wouldnt put past sarkisian or mcdaniel either. the whole thing was so stupid it made my blood boil, and gave me flashbacks right to the dolphins.
 
phinsforlife said:
great observation. i was thinking of posting the same thread. same point. i was going to emphasize the cost of these backwards runs. we have much too many of them. mcdaniel and sarkisian really are two peas from the same pod. these theoretical offensive genius types, that often seem to have no clue. the dumbest part about doing this on 2nd down is the fact that they went for it on 4th down. one would hope that they should have decided they were in four down territory on first down. therefore you know you have 3 cracks at it still when it is 2nd down. therefore when 2nd and goal from the 1, just keep pushing forward. do a sneak. a quick hitter with the RB again. anything that on balance will move the ball forward. you cannot take a risk of the 3 to 7 yard loss. that was the dumbest thing ever. what could be even dumber is the coach didnt decide to go for it on 4th, until then. that would not be thinking ahead, like you are supposed to. this is the type of thing i wouldnt put past sarkisian or mcdaniel either. the whole thing was so stupid it made my blood boil, and gave me flashbacks right to the dolphins.
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I wish someone had a highlight reel of every negative yardage running play the Dolphins had in '24! It would take hours to watch!
 
Zounds said:
Both can be bad play callers at times, but they arent anything alike. Not even close.
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Agree. I dislike noting a 'bad play' or 2 or 3 in a game. Every coach/player does that. I don't worry until it becomes frequent and habitual (i.e., Mcd). I'll not beat the dead horse. every OC will call a play to 'surprise' the D. That's acceptable until it's no longer a surprise.
 
Its structure and belief. OSU Hammers 3 strait runs to take the lead. 2 with a hard nose RB, the other with their QB who ran right into the middle of the storm.
Texas, uses their battering ram for no gain, but no loss. Then they have incomplete, run to the outside, and you know the last play. Running strait at OSU is not easy. Running
to the boundaries in goal line is nothing more than false hopes.

Running plays out of the shotgun on the 1, 2 yard..... I dont like that style of CONSISTENT football. Once in a while sure.
 
McDaniel is not a good playcaller. He is good at drawing up plays and designing an offense but can not get the right call at the right time, nor can he adjust quickly when the defense figures out the offense. He's not even a good coordinator. He's an offensive assistant.
 
The Ghost said:
Its easy to label someone a bad play caller because a play didn't work but at the end of the day, Ohio State's DL dominated the LOS so that really limits the possibilities at the goal line.

The comp to the Dolphins is correct but not because of the man at the helm but because Miami has been manhandled at the LOS for 3 years.
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Ohio's DL was feasting last night, so I can understand not wanting to run right at them, particularly after getting stuffed on 1st down. But still seems weird not to at least try a QB sneak from the 1.
 
stillhardcore said:
I wish someone had a highlight reel of every negative yardage running play the Dolphins had in '24! It would take hours to watch!
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if they had an explanation of what went wrong with each play, and some cut-ups, it might take years to watch!!!!!
 
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