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Schefter says Dolphins are not a "viable option" for Manning

phinfan40353 said:
I apprecaite the fact that everyone believes we would be "unstoppable" and Super Bowl contenders as soon as Manning would step on the field for us, but history and reality aren't on our side.

Most fans on this board want to oversimplify every facet of our team and organization to make it seem like we are always one or two steps away from winning the Super Bowl. Yet it's been 50 years since we've done it. And 30 since we've even been in the Super Bowl.

"All Star" teams don't do it. Big names gaurantee nothing. But these are the devices fans use to explain why a team isn't winning.

There are lessons all over sports history to explain how real champions win. The 1980 U.S. Hockey Team is a prime example. It's not about names, it's about every detail that goes into the mix. For all that Peyton is... there is a lot that he's not.

After 50 years of not winning it, you can't possibly believe we are only 1 player away.

For everything the Heat are after assembling their dream team, they still didn't win the championship. A seasoned team that has played together for many years won it. There is a monumental difference between getting to the championship and winning it. Sure, the difference might be quanitified in a few words. But those few words described the extra something that one team had and another didn't. And they were the only team that had it.

Peyton Manning would be a wrecking ball to the Phins organization. In one move, you would have dismissed the Philbin hiring, Sherman hiring, drafting and player acquisition performed by Ireland and Parcells and destroyed all team chemistry.

Of all teams in the NFL, WE should know what it is like to have a Peyton Manning. How many years have we prided ourselves on "Dan Marino wasn't a system QB. Dan Marino was a system." Sounds great when it rolls off the tongue. But then you realize we have had 16 starting QBs since Marino retired 13 years ago, then you can't intelligently say that it was all because of one reason.

We have had NO direction since he left. Not once has the franchise invested the money, picks, coaching staffs, the general manager and every other talking head in the organization to be at risk for annointing a new face for the franchise. Marino was the face of the franchise. And everyone in the franchise was devoted to making him succeed.

It's easy to think Peyton would galvanize the organization. But in fact, he would polarize it. He's not just a piece that you plug in. He's a piece that destroys the current puzzle. You build around him. And if we did acquire him, everything we do while he is here would be scrapped the minute he walks away.

So, you want 13 more years of futility just to feel warm and fuzzy for 2 years?

No. We've hired Philbin and we've hired Sherman. Now give them the QB THEY NEED to succeed. Sign Flynn.

Don't leave Philbin with a mess to clean up and become the scape goat in 2 years when Peyton laughs all the way to the bank.

Just MHO
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Not trying to be a wise A$, But for the past 15 years or so, Miami has been 1 player away from being really good and that 1 player has been (insert any good quaterback name here) playing for us a Quaterback. We get Pennie and we go right to the playoffs. 1st time in years.

Not sure you have been watching the Dolphns the past few years.

So to answer your post, YES Manning makes us a SB bound team.
Manning, Wayne, Marshel, Bush, Bess - who or rather WHAT is stopping that?

Again it is a dream at this point.
Hey Maybe Flynn can make it work?
Who knows?
 
phinfan40353 said:
I apprecaite the fact that everyone believes we would be "unstoppable" and Super Bowl contenders as soon as Manning would step on the field for us, but history and reality aren't on our side.

Most fans on this board want to oversimplify every facet of our team and organization to make it seem like we are always one or two steps away from winning the Super Bowl. Yet it's been 50 years since we've done it. And 30 since we've even been in the Super Bowl.

"All Star" teams don't do it. Big names gaurantee nothing. But these are the devices fans use to explain why a team isn't winning.

There are lessons all over sports history to explain how real champions win. The 1980 U.S. Hockey Team is a prime example. It's not about names, it's about every detail that goes into the mix. For all that Peyton is... there is a lot that he's not.

After 50 years of not winning it, you can't possibly believe we are only 1 player away.

For everything the Heat are after assembling their dream team, they still didn't win the championship. A seasoned team that has played together for many years won it. There is a monumental difference between getting to the championship and winning it. Sure, the difference might be quanitified in a few words. But those few words described the extra something that one team had and another didn't. And they were the only team that had it.

Peyton Manning would be a wrecking ball to the Phins organization. In one move, you would have dismissed the Philbin hiring, Sherman hiring, drafting and player acquisition performed by Ireland and Parcells and destroyed all team chemistry.

Of all teams in the NFL, WE should know what it is like to have a Peyton Manning. How many years have we prided ourselves on "Dan Marino wasn't a system QB. Dan Marino was a system." Sounds great when it rolls off the tongue. But then you realize we have had 16 starting QBs since Marino retired 13 years ago, then you can't intelligently say that it was all because of one reason.

We have had NO direction since he left. Not once has the franchise invested the money, picks, coaching staffs, the general manager and every other talking head in the organization to be at risk for annointing a new face for the franchise. Marino was the face of the franchise. And everyone in the franchise was devoted to making him succeed.

It's easy to think Peyton would galvanize the organization. But in fact, he would polarize it. He's not just a piece that you plug in. He's a piece that destroys the current puzzle. You build around him. And if we did acquire him, everything we do while he is here would be scrapped the minute he walks away.

So, you want 13 more years of futility just to feel warm and fuzzy for 2 years?

No. We've hired Philbin and we've hired Sherman. Now give them the QB THEY NEED to succeed. Sign Flynn.

Don't leave Philbin with a mess to clean up and become the scape goat in 2 years when Peyton laughs all the way to the bank.

Just MHO
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Are the Patriots without Brady and Belichick a playoff or Superbowl contender? No. A QB and Coach account for 80 % of the teams successs. In Indy Peyton had most to do with their success as we all know Caldwell sucks. The colts without manning went 2-14 and we have better all around pieces than them. Yet you say with him we wont be able to contend? Cmon man just think about what you just wrote a little
 
I don't think it's Ross. i think it's Schefter being a douche.

He can't let go of last year. He's a bandwagoner. Whereever the majority goes he goes.

Mortensen has already refuted a number of Schefter reports already, including last nights scoop that the Dolphins have already met with Manning.
 
didnt Schefty report Manning was no longer taking meeting literally at the same time Manning was meeting with our staff?
 
I can't wait to see the new narrative if we sign Manning. You know the angle ESPN will take: "Ross is only doing this to sell tickets, Peyton isn't even 100%, he's a huge question mark. The Dolphins are still the 3rd best team in the division". It'll be that, or something like that, I guarantee it.
 
BIG_FISH_RI said:
I dont think it has anything to do with Ross. I believe it has everything to do with PM. I get a feeling that Manning wants to run the same systeme that he ran in Indy and wants to direct and have input on who we bring in. Irleand and Philbin just ain't with it. Not completely anyway. Denver has the upper hand because they have the larger cap space, they can work with a clean slate, and the coaching staff is comfortable with him directing the o.

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Peyton Manning would be a wrecking ball to the Phins organization. In one move, you would have dismissed the Philbin hiring, Sherman hiring, drafting and player acquisition performed by Ireland and Parcells and destroyed all team chemistry.

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I, for one, believed that if Manning were hired it would have required turning over the keys to him and forming the team around him just like was done in Indy. And we all saw what happened when he was not playing in Indy.

So....to bring him in and knuckle under to his demands, changing the team for him and then he's gone in a few years (or, more than likely, reinjured during the 1st season and out & then retires) then what are we left with???? No thanks.

If he was 26 I'd say yeah, do whatever we could to bring him in and cater to his demands. A 36 yr old QB with an unresolved neck/cervical injury who still is not close to 100% and no one knows if he ever will be or what will happen when he takes a hit?? Think about it with a clear head and you'll see the right decision.
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SWEET....that means he will sign since Shefter has never been right about the Dolphins future!
 
phinfan40353 said:
After 50 years of not winning it, you can't possibly believe we are only 1 player away.
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I do... Can you imagine a young healthy Dan Marino coming in this next year? We may not win all the games.. but we will win most of them!!!
 
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