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So like always I had a chance to speak with my buddy today and discuss our draft and get his point of view. Nothing really different then what most "experts" had to say

1. Tannehill - he has all the tools to be a very good QB However he is not ready to play in the NFL this year. He really believes that he will be our starter day 1 but feels that Miami would be best served sitting Tannehll and letting him learn. He believes that Tannehill can make all throws and with some coaching and time could be a very good player in the NFL. While he understands that we had t make the pick, he feels that at 8 he was over drafted for a QB that should not be a starter day 1. Miami's coaching staff will get him ready. (nothing new here)

2. "you have a day 1 starter at left tackle" Martin will start no brainer. He is athletic, he is big, he needs to get stronger but he will fit into that zone blocking scheme that Miami is suppose o be running. (nothing new here)

3. Vernon - Extremely good and will be huge for Miami on 1-2 down. He needs to develop more as an edge rusher. He is really strong an has strong hands. He will set the edge in that 4-3 and do a good job. He said he is not a explosive pass rusher, dont expect for him to be like Wake, but if he can develop a bit more in the pass rushing area he will be a monster. He described him as a bull. He said NE had him rated as a round 2 player and some scouts had him as high as 4th or 5th as a true 4-3 DE. Great Pick May be the best pick in Miami's draft based on what he will do and where he was drafted. (He really talked high of this kid)

4. Egnew - A very good pick if he is used correctly and interesting how he develops. He stated that he is a system guy which you have to be concerned about. However he has the tools and Miami will have to help him develop as a blocker. Yes he is a match up nightmare as most LB will not be able to run but that is over stated as there is no real issue if he can't block as most teams will not even consider the run and play strictly pass when he gets on the field. If he can develop little, it would be interesting how he adds to the offense. (bottom line i got the impression that he is a little but of a project player but has all the tools - again nothing new here)

5. Miller - Was not impressed at all - Soft player. Avoids contact, will go down easy, not sold that the shoulders are not a problem. Will not play hurt. Do not see him performing much. (unlike a lot of us he feels that it was a wasted dream. Does not see him doing much and he even said that he will just get buried down on the roster.)

Kaddu - we didnt discuss

7- Cunnigham - He will make the team. Kid has everything to be a very good WR except speed. He has room to improve but he is smooth and has good hands. Didnt thing he was anything special.

We didnt talk about anyone else.
All in all he felt Miami draft was real sold but would be great if Tannehill develops.

Just wanted to share with you guys like a do yearly.
 
has some good points but think he is off on miller.SOFT i dont think so he is a less talanted RW bank it
 
Funny, some people say Miller is soft and will go down easily, and others say the opposite. In the highlight reel I saw, the kid kept breaking tackles and punishing defenders. So which one is it... we'll see.
 
Miller is not soft. Tough player who played injured because team needed him. If he gets past the dline and makes a linebacker miss, he is gone. if not he drops a shoulder and grinds out 2-3 yards the hard way. The other Cane backs were terrible, Miller and Streeter were the only bright spots on the team besides linebacker Sean Spence. Miller was a Great pickup!
finatical
 
From watching film that was actually something i picked up on miller, He never really breaks a tackle that he shouldn't break... but its a trait you'd like to see a rb have . To say the guy runs with power is a huge overstatement.
 
Lamar Miller avoids contact? Lol....his biggest weakness is that he DOESN'T avoid contact enough given his smaller frame.
 
BIG_FISH_RI said:
So like always I had a chance to speak with my buddy today and discuss our draft and get his point of view. Nothing really different then what most "experts" had to say

1. Tannehill - he has all the tools to be a very good QB However he is not ready to play in the NFL this year. He really believes that he will be our starter day 1 but feels that Miami would be best served sitting Tannehll and letting him learn. He believes that Tannehill can make all throws and with some coaching and time could be a very good player in the NFL. While he understands that we had t make the pick, he feels that at 8 he was over drafted for a QB that should not be a starter day 1. Miami's coaching staff will get him ready. (nothing new here)

2. "you have a day 1 starter at left tackle" Martin will start no brainer. He is athletic, he is big, he needs to get stronger but he will fit into that zone blocking scheme that Miami is suppose o be running. (nothing new here)

3. Vernon - Extremely good and will be huge for Miami on 1-2 down. He needs to develop more as an edge rusher. He is really strong an has strong hands. He will set the edge in that 4-3 and do a good job. He said he is not a explosive pass rusher, dont expect for him to be like Wake, but if he can develop a bit more in the pass rushing area he will be a monster. He described him as a bull. He said NE had him rated as a round 2 player and some scouts had him as high as 4th or 5th as a true 4-3 DE. Great Pick May be the best pick in Miami's draft based on what he will do and where he was drafted. (He really talked high of this kid)

4. Egnew - A very good pick if he is used correctly and interesting how he develops. He stated that he is a system guy which you have to be concerned about. However he has the tools and Miami will have to help him develop as a blocker. Yes he is a match up nightmare as most LB will not be able to run but that is over stated as there is no real issue if he can't block as most teams will not even consider the run and play strictly pass when he gets on the field. If he can develop little, it would be interesting how he adds to the offense. (bottom line i got the impression that he is a little but of a project player but has all the tools - again nothing new here)

5. Miller - Was not impressed at all - Soft player. Avoids contact, will go down easy, not sold that the shoulders are not a problem. Will not play hurt. Do not see him performing much. (unlike a lot of us he feels that it was a wasted dream. Does not see him doing much and he even said that he will just get buried down on the roster.)

Kaddu - we didnt discuss

7- Cunnigham - He will make the team. Kid has everything to be a very good WR except speed. He has room to improve but he is smooth and has good hands. Didnt thing he was anything special.

We didnt talk about anyone else.
All in all he felt Miami draft was real sold but would be great if Tannehill develops.

Just wanted to share with you guys like a do yearly.
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Your "friend" sounds like a "rehasher", and a never-been-wanna-be.
 
j-off-her-doll said:
I disagree with some of his points too, but whether or not this guy's friend has any ability as a scout, BIG_FISH is just sharing.
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Scouting is all opnion and there will be tons of disagreements. However this dude is very sucessful and he has been right more then he has been wrong over the years.
 
Not sure why people think Martin is our starting LT all the sudden. It would be completely idiotic of we release Jake for an unproven rookie (actually for anyone for that matter).
 
dolpns13 said:
Not sure why people think Martin is our starting LT all the sudden. It would be completely idiotic of we release Jake for an unproven rookie (actually for anyone for that matter).
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thanks for the catch....That should have been RIGHT TAKLE.
 
BIG_FISH_RI said:
thanks for the catch....That should have been RIGHT TAKLE.
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No offense.. im not sure if you copied this from somewhere or was just paraphrasing, but I have seen lots of analysts, fans, and scouts continuously say that Martin will be our left tackle. Ireland himself (take the GM speak for whats its worth), say publicly that we are not releasing or trading Jake. Now if that means we move hi to RT is another thing, but IMO that in and of itself would also be a huge mistake. IMO we drafted Martin to be our starting RT. I wouldnt even mind if started him at gaurd, but I think that had everything to do with wether or not we sign Jake Scott.
 
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