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Should we resign Ronnie?

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Im of the opinion we should resign Ronnie without a doubt. In order to acquire a running back of his talent we would need to use a 1st round pick and hope that player is comparable(odds are against it). That first round pick could be of use at another position. Ronnie is a fine teammate, blocker, receiver, runner.

There is an overused saying in the NFL that the productive life of an NFL runningback is very short. The truth is the productive life of an NFL PLAYER is short. Almost regardless of position, the positions that don't require alot of agility usually are the ones with productive "old guys".

Here is a list of running backs after 4 years and the amount of carries they had and then how long they continued to produce after their first 4 years.


Shaun Alexander had 994 carries after 4 years and continued to produce for 4 more years

Edge James had 1184 carries and produced for another 5 1/2 years(with an acl/mcl injury)

Tomlinson had 1363 carries and produced for 4 more years and counting

Eddie George had 1360 carries and produced for 4 more yrs.

Ronnie Brown has 781 carries through 4 years. He has the talent to be a productive running back for another 5 years, NO QUESTION.

Resign him.
 
he's got the talent, but he gets injured alot.

I'd honestly wait till the offseason, you want to see if he can remain healthy for another full season. You still have Ricky, good for 1-2 more solid years as a committee back. You have an up and comming RB in Cobbs, who needs more snaps.
Ronnie will be resigned probably before FA, and take a deal thats among the higher RB's. with his injury history it's not like he's the best comming out
 
Have you noticed that every one of the backs you listed battled injuries pretty consistently for the last couple yrs? The odds are not in his favor, especially after having 1 major knee surgery already. I am not opposed to resigning Ronnie, but I woulldn't go anything over a 4 yr deal. I personally like the idea of waiting to see what happens with the CBA. If there is no new agreement, he is a RFA and someone would have to cough up a #1 pick to get him. Either way, I don't want to see anything more than a 4yr deal.
 
we need to keep as much continuity with the plyers who been here if we ever want to win a super bowl. Try to keep the players who constantly produce...and upgrade the positions that needs to get better. I applaude the front office for attempting to upgrade the secondary and oline...very proud of the dolphins, however..we wont know how good of an upgrade this is until we see the team play. I am always against getting rid of players like ricky ronnie joey porter, chad pennington, tedd ginns, guys who we know put it on the line for our team even before we went 11-5....they deserve to see this team take it the distance
 
Actually finfan_in_Iraq that was my point,

All the runningbacks listed supposedly hit that invisible running back wall.

Assuming Ronnie also hits that wall he still has at least 4 more seasons of productivity.
And the length of the conract is basically meaningless, the odds of him seeing the last couple years of a 6 year deal would be very slim and the chances of him signing a short term deal are even slimmer, (unless he's franchised).
 
Players deserve things??? The NFL is a business. There is no room for keeping players or paying them too much because they have been through the rough times with you. This is the reason teams like the pats and steelers have been so successful. They will let you walk if you want too much money. The Pats let Moss walk into FA after they broke all those records....he came back. The Steelers let JP go and just plugged in Harrison. They just cut Foote to save money and because Timmons is ready to step into his role. Players are getting paid millions of dollars. If you get rid of them, if they are any good they will land with a new team. Coaches and FO's get caught up in emotion rather than business get fired and might not get another job.
 
I think Ronnie is pretty fresh for a running back..they take alot of pounding but ronnie seems to be alright same with ricky
 
I think they will defitnetly be resigning Ronnie. If not Franchising him next year.
 
I think that they will wait and see if he makes it through this season uninjured. If he gets injured this season they will let him go. He has been a little injury prone AND has only cracked 1k yards rushing once so far. Honestly, stats wise, he isn't that impressive...not opinion- fact. I like Ronnie, but this regime is very critical and they want someone that will be on the field.
Mark my words, if Ronnie suffers another injury that causes him to miss games, he will not be resigned at what he and his agent thinks he is worth.(assuming his asking price will be high because he just made his first pro bowl)
I believe the feeling around the league is that RB's can be found, that are smart ball handlers and not injury prone, pretty easily.

http://www.nfl.com/players/ronniebrown/profile?id=BRO662745
 
Sorry b/c I like Ronnie but I'd say no.

1.) He'll turn 29 in December of next season.

2.) He'll command a multi-year (going into his 30s) top 5 RB dollars type contract.

3.) Although it's not as easy as it seems, it is possible to have a rookie RB be VERY productive as a rookie and it doesn't necessarily have to be a 1st round pick.

4.) Ronnie has great hands and blocking skills and runs very hard but...his vision is average or possibly even below average and his on the field speed is no where near what is 4.3 40 time at the combine would've led you to believe.

5.) The money can be better invested in a NT (Vince Wilfork?) and a stud OG in FA. Keep building the trenches with the semi-big $ FAs (ala Jake Grove, Randy Starks) and high draft picks (ala Long, Langford, Merling) and then get the skill positions from the 2nd - 7th rounds of the draft (ala Pat White).

6.) Speaking of Pat White, given his running skills and given Ricky also being around (assuming we keep him through 2010), we don't necessarily need that "featured RB" that Ronnie wants to be (or at least get paid as such).


Nahhh....I'd go trenches in 2010 FA and round 1 pick and then look at RB (and WR) in the 2nd round and later.

I'm just not sure if Ronnie is a top 5 RB in this league and I certainly don't have a good reason to believe that he will prove to be one in his 30s if he didn't prove that in his prime.

P.S. Now franchising him for just one more year (2010) or even better, franchise tag-n-trading him next offseason would be even better than just letting him walk. But no long term deal.
 
Sorry b/c I like Ronnie but I'd say no.

1.) He'll turn 29 in December of next season.

2.) He'll command a multi-year (going into his 30s) top 5 RB dollars type contract.

3.) Although it's not as easy as it seems, it is possible to have a rookie RB be VERY productive as a rookie and it doesn't necessarily have to be a 1st round pick.

4.) Ronnie has great hands and blocking skills and runs very hard but...his vision is average or possibly even below average and his on the field speed is no where near what is 4.3 40 time at the combine would've led you to believe.

5.) The money can be better invested in a NT (Vince Wilfork?) and a stud OG in FA. Keep building the trenches with the semi-big $ FAs (ala Jake Grove, Randy Starks) and high draft picks (ala Long, Langford, Merling) and then get the skill positions from the 2nd - 7th rounds of the draft (ala Pat White).

6.) Speaking of Pat White, given his running skills and given Ricky also being around (assuming we keep him through 2010), we don't necessarily need that "featured RB" that Ronnie wants to be (or at least get paid as such).


Nahhh....I'd go trenches in 2010 FA and round 1 pick and then look at RB (and WR) in the 2nd round and later.

I'm just not sure if Ronnie is a top 5 RB in this league and I certainly don't have a good reason to believe that he will prove to be one in his 30s if he didn't prove that in his prime.

P.S. Now franchising him for just one more year (2010) or even better, franchise tag-n-trading him next offseason would be even better than just letting him walk. But no long term deal.


I think this will be our approach. It would be pretty stupid to extend a runningback too early especially one that is already among the highest paid. Its not like he is underpaid.
 
For the right price yes.SIP seems to have a way with getting guys to re-sign for slightly less. Ronnie is a complete back. They really should utilize him more. When Cam fed him the ball he went from good to great.
 
For the right price yes.SIP seems to have a way with getting guys to re-sign for slightly less. Ronnie is a complete back. They really should utilize him more. When Cam fed him the ball he went from good to great.

You mean he went from good to great in 6 weeks before he tore the acl???
 
For the right price yes.SIP seems to have a way with getting guys to re-sign for slightly less. Ronnie is a complete back. They really should utilize him more. When Cam fed him the ball he went from good to great.


In perfect conditions, he can be/has been "great" but that's still not enough to get me to sign him long term into his 30s.

He aint Adrian Peterson-great and even with those type of RBs, I don't think the Chargers made the right move in signing Tomlinson long term (although that LT deal may have an out clause, not sure).
 
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