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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. - The final day of full pads practice is now complete and all that's left is the Shrine Game itself. Several players left a positive final impression on NFL scouts as we head toward Saturday's kickoff. Here are the Risers and Sliders from Wednesday's practices ...

Risers

Mark Glowinski/OL/West Virginia - Glowinski grew on me throughout the week and really turned it on Wednesday. He's a strong blocker who plays with solid fundamentals and controlled just about everyone he faced. Glowinski lined up at several offensive line positions displaying a degree of versatility in his game.

Devin Gardner/WR/Michigan - Gardner was not one of the better receivers in attendance, but the improvement he displayed at his new position the past three days was dramatic. He went from unsure, imprecise route running on Monday to confidently turning into breaks on Wednesday. Two days ago, he was fighting the football which resulted in dropped passes. Gardner was extending then snatching the ball from the air on Wednesday. He still has a long ways to go but is undoubtedly heading in the right direction.

Terrence Magee/RB/LSU - Magee's teammate Kenny Hilliard turned heads on Tuesday and today it was Magee who impressed scouts. The well-sized back displayed agility and quickness in his carries as well as the speed necessary to beat defenders around the corner. He showed a terrific burst through the running lanes and the ability to leave defenders grasping at air as he made opponents miss in the open field.

Bobby McCain/CB/Memphis - McCain was inconsistent in the early part of the week, but looked every bit the NFL cornerback on Wednesday. He shut down opponents in one-on-one drills then looked solid during scrimmage when zone coverage was employed.

Fritz Etienne/S/Memphis - Like his teammate, Etienne finished Shrine practices on a high note. He looked more like a cornerback than safety in coverage and made a beautiful interception during scrimmage which was roundly applauded. All week Etienne, who was barely noticed by scouts entering the season, showed next-level potential patrolling centerfield.

Damian Swann/CB/Georgia - Swann had been steady during the initial practices then really stepped up his play Wednesday. He made very few errors at the start of the week and on Wednesday he had several nice break-ups including one pick in the short field. Swann showed consistent ball skills all day.

Craig Mager/CB/Texas State - The small-school corner had his moments in practice on Wednesday. He's a feisty cornerback with a terrific burst as well as anticipatory skills. He made several nice plays on the football and did just enough for scouts to stamp him with a late-round grade on him.

Sliders

Edmond Robinson/LB/Newberry - Robinson has struggled from day one of Shrine Week. He lacks the speed and athleticism to make plays outside the box and has been swallowed up by blocks in the middle of the field. Not the type of performance the prospect from a small school wanted.

Taylor Kelly/QB/Arizona State - Kelly gave effort and made the right choices in the pocket but he lacks next-level arm strength and many of his passes were high of the mark as he overthrew the ball in an attempt to get speed on the ball.
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I maintained that Bobby McCain was the most underrated CB in college football all season. Reminds me a lot of Alterraun Verner. I've actually had him as my #2 Senior cornerback since October.

I've also talked about how good Craig Mager was on film during the season. I'm not surprised by the positive impressions they left. McCain, Mager, Cam Thomas, and Chris Dunkley are the most underrated and underappreciated Senior corners in this draft. Quentin Rollins used to be in this group, but the hype caught up with him just as quickly as I thought it would.

Not at all suprised by Mark Glowinski either. I've talked a lot about him and teammate Quinton Spain throughout the season also.
 
Not surprised Gardner is showing a lot. 2 years ago when he was WR at Michigan (before Shoelace got hurt) he was starting to show a lot of potential.
 
The best corners this week were definitely (in no particular order): Greg Henderson, Justin Coleman, Damian Swann and Craig Mager.

I like Bobby McCain but he didn't have the week of practice the other five guys had. Nor did Josh Shaw. However there's a difference between having a good practice week and showing that you have a lot of potential, and Shaw oozes potential so he could get the call-up to the Senior Bowl.

Strongly considering making Damian Swann the best performer of the week. He strung together a solid Tuesday with a fantastic Wednesday and this morning (just got back from practice) he had another fantastic showing for Thursday. He moves as well as any corner, has great athleticism, and he competed HARD during these last two days. Was breaking up passes, even out-muscled a player for an interception.

I did not expect Damian Swann to look this good and I would not say I have been a big fan. But what happened is what happened, and that's what happened.
 
Two running backs that have my attention after this week are Dominique Brown of Louisville and John Crockett of North Dakota State.

Crockett is a lot faster than people think. And that's in addition to being built like he's cut from rock to play running back in the NFL. I went and checked on him after I saw him this week and on his big 80 yard touchdown run against Iowa State he flat outran a corner that runs in the 4.49 range. Just plain outstrided him. This week during practices the linebackers had no idea what to do with him in coverage because absolutely nothing worked. They tried to take the air out of him in his route and it didn't work. They tried to give him space to protect against the big play and it didn't work. And the thing you're not ever going to know about him unless you attend a week of his practices is what kind of emotional leader he is, and what kind of limitless supply of energy and stamina he has. He's explosive into contact, cuts really well.

Oh and he ran for 2000+ yards and 21 TDs this year en route to yet another FCS title that featured yet another victory over a power five FBS team. So there's that.

As for Dominique Brown, when a guy doesn't get carries and opportunities it can get tough to evaluate him. I don't know what happened at Louisville, but I know what I've seen this week. He should have been their 3rd down back because he runs routes and catches the ball very well. He's also huge and runs around better than he has a right to for that size (6'2" & 232 lbs). Not saying I'd draft the guy high, or even at all, but he's probably stood out the best aside from Crockett.
 
I actually headed into the season with Greg Henderson as my #2 Senior cornerback. Although it didn't take long for him to lose that spot. They left him in single coverage more this year in an attempt to do some things defensively, and he paid the price for it.

His performance against Cal might have been the worst individual DB performance I witnessed all season. He was absolutely roasted up and down the field all game long. He made up for it by getting roasted in about 5 other Pac-12 games I watched the rest of the way. He failed to record a single INT all season.

McCain was just spectacular all season for Memphis, and a big reason why they had the season they had and won 10 games. Opposing quarterbacks chose to stay away from McCain as he locked down one side of the field. He wasn't challenged much, but when he was he came up big. Lead the team in INT's for the second straight year. He has 11 INT's in his last 22 games. However, it's his tackling for a CB that makes him a good football player.

I have more conviction in what I've seen on tape all season than I do in second hand reports from a few days of practice in an All-Star game that I haven't observed myself.

As far as cornerbacks go, Miami should look at Marcus Peters, Trae Waynes, Jacoby Glenn, P.J. Williams, IEO, Kevin Johnson, Byron Jones, Donald Celiscar, Quinten Rollins, Bobby McCain, Craig Mager, Cam Thomas, Chris Dunkley, Richard Leonard, and Tye Smith throughout varies points in the draft. I'm confident all these kids are the best I've seen.
 
ckparrothead said:
Two running backs that have my attention after this week are Dominique Brown of Louisville and John Crockett of North Dakota State.

Crockett is a lot faster than people think. And that's in addition to being built like he's cut from rock to play running back in the NFL. I went and checked on him after I saw him this week and on his big 80 yard touchdown run against Iowa State he flat outran a corner that runs in the 4.49 range. Just plain outstrided him. This week during practices the linebackers had no idea what to do with him in coverage because absolutely nothing worked. They tried to take the air out of him in his route and it didn't work. They tried to give him space to protect against the big play and it didn't work. And the thing you're not ever going to know about him unless you attend a week of his practices is what kind of emotional leader he is, and what kind of limitless supply of energy and stamina he has. He's explosive into contact, cuts really well.

Oh and he ran for 2000+ yards and 21 TDs this year en route to yet another FCS title that featured yet another victory over a power five FBS team. So there's that.

As for Dominique Brown, when a guy doesn't get carries and opportunities it can get tough to evaluate him. I don't know what happened at Louisville, but I know what I've seen this week. He should have been their 3rd down back because he runs routes and catches the ball very well. He's also huge and runs around better than he has a right to for that size (6'2" & 232 lbs). Not saying I'd draft the guy high, or even at all, but he's probably stood out the best aside from Crockett.
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When asked about Brown by the local media, he insinuated that Brown didn't practice hard enough to play.

http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...fon-looking-experienced-quarterback/18910067/

On running back Dominique Brown's lack of playing time, especially in third- or fourth-and shorts: "We have personnel groupings we use on certain situations, and one of the things we've been able to do in practice is really work hard on the guys that practice hard and execute hard in practice, get in the game and the reps in the games."
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If he doesn't practice hard that's a problem.

The best thing Brown has going for him is that he's a big back that runs behind his pads, and has shown that he can catch the ball out of the backfield. There's just not a lot of those for teams to choose from in any draft.

However, Brandon Radcliff is the kid I was really impressed with. He just cracks my top 20 underclassman RB's for 2016. Low center of gravity and powerfully built. He's maintained a stout YPC and scored a dozen times last year picking up the slack for Brown and Dyer. Plus he return kicks... which helps him.
 
TedSlimmJr said:
If he doesn't practice hard that's a problem.

The best thing Brown has going for him is that he's a big back that runs behind his pads, and has shown that he can catch the ball out of the backfield. There's just not a lot of those for teams to choose from in any draft.

However, Brandon Radcliff is the kid I was really impressed with. He just cracks my top 20 underclassman RB's for 2016. Low center of gravity and powerfully built. He's maintained a stout YPC and scored a dozen times last year picking up the slack for Brown and Dyer. Plus he return kicks... which helps him.
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I've heard by all accounts that Radcliff is one of the hardest practicing kids on the team. He squats the second most amount of weight on the team (after FB Griffin Uhl who is more bodybuilder than FB).
 
datruth55 said:
Did Crocket have 3 straight seasons of 2000+ yards?
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No that's Zach Zenner. But Zenner doesn't have that much agility or strength, doesn't move like an NFL tailback and his body kind of looks high school-ish. He's got speed, he can turn a corner, and he catches the football nicely. He's got a quiet, competitive demeanor. But I don't look at him and see NFL material.
 
I saw today what you guys are saying about Bobby Mccain.

John Miller G Louisville made some money this week. I liked what I saw. May have worked up to 3rd/4th round. I wouldn't be disappointed to get him in 4th. Looks solid in run and pass.

liked what I saw from Jake Ryan.

Bryce Callahan CB Rice showed good hips in off press coverage.

Anthony Chickillo DE made some money this week. Tyeler Davison DT has me intrigued if we dont go DT earlier as a fourth rounder.

Zach Vigil is a guy that had me intrigued before game because he shot up some big boards on some sites. He was ok. No mistakes but no eye popping instincts or tackles.

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not that a all-star game should make any conclusions.
 
Anthony Chickillo is another player that will be better in the NFL than he was with the Canes. I'd like to see him drop to around 265-270 to get his burst back...I think he's carrying too much weight right now at 282. He was better as a freshman than he is now leaving as a senior. His 5 sacks as a freshman were the most he had in his career but you can blame Golden for that. Playing him as a 5 technique in that crappy 3-4 he runs.

Would not surprise me to see Denzel Perryman, Anthony Chickillo, Ladarius Gunter and Olsen Pierre have solid NFL careers.
 
couple more late to undrafted guys that should interest us and that was Xavier Williams DT from N. Iowa at 325.bs. Really thought he stood out when he got his reps.

That Lott kid from N. Tennesee showed great quickness almost getting a safety on the QB even though he was going against what looked like crap. Good Special Teams play from him too. Looked to me like he was outside and inside from time to time.

Josh Shaw could be late round steal.
 
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