I think Daniel Jones is going to surge up the board...very talented QB surrounded by average talent!
@ckparrothead I liked your thread re: Murray and am fully on board.
How far are you willing to go? Take if he's there at 13 only or trade chips to go up and get him?
Yes CK... how much would you give up for Murray?
Howard and the 13th?.... Tunsil and the 13th?.......2019 & 2020 1st rounders?
Yes CK... how much would you give up for Murray?
Howard and the 13th?.... Tunsil and the 13th?.......2019 & 2020 1st rounders?
I would protect the 2020 first rounder because Steve Ross intends to tank this team, which means that pick will be very high.
But anything below that is fair game, including multiple 2nd/3rd round picks in 2019/2020.
I very much doubt Xavien Howard/1st rounder is a realistic scenario. Nor is Laremy Tunsil/1st rounder.
But all this depends on where Kyler Murray is slated to go. If it's too high, it's too high. We're picking #13 not #5. If it's too high you circle back to position in 2020 and go from there. I like Jordan Love. I like Justin Herbert well enough. If we don't have a Kyler Murray we may very well find ourselves in position to take Tua Tagovailoa. Jake Fromm is worthy of consideration as well.
You seem sold on Kyler Murray...if you feel that strongly and had the power...I feel you go get that QB even if you overpay. If the Dolphins had taken that approach and practiced “The Ron Wolf philosophy” I think the recent history would be much different. I’m a little confused by the concept that you (third person) feel a player is a superstar, generational, gonna crush the league...and the quibble about how much it costs to get him? In reality if a GM is completely sold on Kyler Murray... go all in... we don’t need the 2020 pick to get the QB, if we get him now.... if we get Murray we’re going to win some games and not pick as high anyway...I would estimate.
I don’t feel the importance of the QB position can be overstated in this league... now more than ever.
The QB is like the Queen in chess!
The problem is that there's got to be some doubt there. I watched him a few times this year and think the kid is awesome but its hard to completely discount those nagging thoughts on size and durability in the pros. He just isn't a Luck/Manning/Elway type.
I'd still draft him if the offensive coaches were on board for no other reason than the fact that this team desperately needs something to entertain its fans. Even if he turned out to be a trainwreck it would be more fun to watch that what's been on the field these past few years.
Been off today checking out Daniel Jones for the first time. I’ll be that guy, I’m much higher on Jones than anyone else seems to be on this board.
Jesus that is so much to give up. At that point look at another prospect. Someone like Grier or Lock, and just keep to your board.
If Kyler ends up being a Michael Vick type with much better accuracy & pocket awareness and Grier/Lock turn out to be Andy Dalton or Alex Smith, will you care how many picks were traded?
I think Daniel Jones is going to surge up the board...very talented QB surrounded by average talent!
Daniel Jones is Tannehill without the arm strength
Tannehill in his wet dreams never had the touch or pocket presence Jones has.