Slimm's 2019 Safeties (underclassman)

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  1. j-off-her-doll

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    He was very slow to get over on that early longish TD run. Didn't key on him, but I agree that he doesn't seem to be getting to the ball in general, and that he's been giving up plays, in the second half of the season.
     
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    The other day I read a blurb on Rob Staton's Seahawks Draft Blog that indicated Deionte Thompson quietly ran a 4.71 at the SPARQ camp.

    He certainly looked like a 4.7 guy on that breakaway play by Clemson. No burst or sustained speed at all. Thompson had his head down and was still churning for all he had yet he was being outdistanced easily.

    For his sake he really should have given up earlier and not put that lack of speed on display. It wouldn't have been a big deal because his teammates quit a quarter or so later. Besides, as I've mentioned many times I saw Todd Marinovich intentionally avoid Hail Mary throws several times at USC because he was petrified of demonstrating his lack of arm strength.

    That 4.71 must have really been concealed if Thompson ever had a grade in the mid to high first round. Safeties have to be ultra elite to be picked in that range.
     
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    Deionte Thompson's issues became exposed after Trevon Diggs was injured at CB during the Arkansas game. Savion Smith was inserted into the starting lineup, and Thompson quickly realized he would spend the rest of the season trying to make up for the worst CB I've ever seen take the field for Alabama in 50 years. No exaggeration.

    Savion Smith is without question, THE worst cornerback I've ever seen play for Alabama. He ran a 4.7, which is why he couldn't play for LSU before going the JUCO route. No idea how this kid was rated so high as a JUCO prospect. Just an awful, awful football player. Can't run, can't cover, can't tackle, can't shed a stalk block by a WR. This is what Thompson was tasked with making up for. Smith became the focal point of every offense's gameplan from that point forward - whether you were the Citadel or Georgia or Clemson. It didn't matter. Run game and passing game.

    In turn, it caused Thompson's own weaknesses to be exposed.
     
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    It's true. Btw, for any HS tests, you can Google the players name + espn high school profile, and it should be the top result. I'm sure other Google searches will also work. I'd guess he's more of a 4.60-4.65 guy at this point. Greedy Williams and Julian Love also posted 4.71 40s coming out. Some guys improve a lot, but I doubt many go from 4.7's to 4.4's. Love and Williams should probably run in the 4.5's.

    http://www.espn.com/college-sports/football/recruiting/player/combine/_/id/172789/deionte-thompson
     
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    It’s definitely true. He ran a 4.77 in 2015 at 6’1”, 174 pounds. He looks to me like he’s about a 4.65 now, although 20 pounds heavier. You can see it when he’s in chase mode - a mode the coaching staff was able to keep him out of until injury took out the best cornerback.

    However, his 20 yard shuttle time (3.98) was in elite category. Also visible all through this tape.

    His vertical jump (35.8”) and power throw (37.0) were both approaching elite marks for the position coming out of high school.

    But as I mentioned previously, the more concerning thing for me were the constant mental mistakes he was making the second half of the season. Eyes always in the wrong place for the technique he was playing, and getting caught flat footed as receivers got behind him for scores in the most important games.

    His lack of speed could no longer be hid with a 4.7 corner (Savion Smith) playing in front of him. Between the two, Alabama had FCS speed making up half their secondary back there. Inexcusable for a program that recruits at the level of Alabama. The results are Jake Fromm looking like Tom Brady, Kyler Murray looking like Russell Wilson, and true freshman Trevor Lawrence looking like Peyton Manning. Not to mention Arkansas hanging 30+ points on you, and the Citadel looking like the ‘95 Cornhuskers.

    Bama simply didn’t have all the fast, athletic, talented young 5-star players in the secondary ready to contribute instead. Again, inexcusable. You can’t start two players in the same secondary that slow at Alabama and not expect to pay for it. You will. They did.

    The coaches thought it would be ok as long as the mental mistakes weren’t made. But the mental mistakes were made. When that happens, you end up with your slow players exposed in isolated situations. The situations you’re trying to avoid by counting on players to be where they’re supposed to be.
     
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