Slimm's 2019 Wide Receivers (underclassman)

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  1. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    1. D.K. Metcalf** / Ole Miss / 6'4", 230

    2. Kelvin Harmon / N.C. State / 6'3", 214

    3. N'Keal Harry / Arizona St. / 6'4", 216

    4. Hakeem Butler / Iowa St. / 6'6", 225

    5. Riley Ridley / Georgia / 6'2", 200

    6. Anthony Ratliff-Williams / N. Carolina / 6'1", 205

    7. J.J. Arcega-Whiteside / Stanford / 6'3", 225

    8. Dillon Mitchell / Oregon / 6'2", 189

    9. Marquis Brown / Oklahoma / 5'10", 170

    10. Preston Williams / Colorado St. / 6'4", 210

    11. Antoine Wesley / Texas Tech / 6'5", 200

    12. Miles Boykin / Notre Dame / 6'4", 228

    13. Darius Slayton / Auburn / 6'2", 190

    14. Jalen Guyton / N. Texas / 6'1", 202












    Slot/Return:

    1. A.J. Brown / Ole Miss / 6'1", 230

    2. Mecole Hardman / Georgia / 5'11", 183

    4. Lil'Jordan Humphrey / Texas / 6'4", 225

    5. Greg Dortch** / Wake Forest / 5'9", 170

    6. Jakobi Meyers / N.C. State / 6'2", 203

    7. Diontae Johnson / Toledo / 5'11", 181

    8. Tony Pollard / Memphis / 6'0", 208

    9. Penny Hart / Georgia St. / 5'8", 180

    10. John Ursua / Hawaii / 5'10", 175
     
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    My goodness Greg Dortch is exciting.

    I will take Kyle Williams as well. Smart player.
     
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  3. TedSlimmJr

    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Kyle Williams is an interesting kid away from football. I think he's already about halfway to becoming a doctor and has been interning at the Mayo Clinic. Awesome kid and a fine football player.
     
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    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    j-doll - what's your assessment of A.J. Brown and/or how do you feel he projects as an outside receiver at the next level?
     
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    I like him. Obviously not a burner, and (to me) he looks quicker with the ball in his hands than getting out of his breaks, but he's very smooth, and he plays the ball in the air as well as any receiver I've watched this year - high points the ball and is very strong/tough in traffic.

    Draft Scout has his 40 range between 4.50-4.59, but I've seen people say he may run in the 4.6's. 4.5's world be great, but because of the ways he wins, 4.6's wouldn't be a big deal to me. While I think he can make plays outside in the NFL, I hope he lands on an offense with that utilizes his versatility. Because of his size and skillset, A. Bolden is the comp that immediately comes to mind. While he's very tough and competitive, I don't know if he's in that elite/psycho category of Bolden, but I'm not saying he's not. He has some similarities to JuJu, too, but I think JuJu is faster and quicker.

    There aren't many teams where I'd say he's not a fit. Would love to see him in a role similar to Cooper Kupp in LA, and I think he'd work well for Darnold/Bates in NY. Josh Allen could certainly use him in Buffalo, but that offense isn't as creative, and I don't think he'd shine there like he would some other places. Not that they'd spend an early pick on a WR, but he'd be great in NE. Don't know what Miami will do at QB moving forward, but the offense could use a player with his skillset.

    I feel like the best offenses in today's NFL move their receivers around to create mismatches, and Brown is built for that. If he lands somewhere with a more boring/predictable offense, I think he can be good, but I don't think he'll reach his potential.
     
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    TedSlimmJr Hartselle Tigers (15-0) 5-A State Champ

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    Yeah I don't know exactly what he'll run, but I know it's fast enough whatever it is. Certainly looks faster than N'Keal Harry or Kelvin Harmon, for example. He's just about as fast as fellow NWO member D.K. Metcalf. Although Brown has quicker acceleration from 0-15 yards than Metcalf.

    Brown obviously works primarily out of the slot for Ole Miss, which is why I asked how you felt he projected as an outside receiver at the next level. He doesn't really see any press coverage from the slot and mostly works against zones. However, I see the indicators that he can beat press and play on the outside in the NFL. He's able to create separation and has strong RAC skills. I watch these kids like Harry and Kelvin Harmon, and they just can't create any separation on the outside against college DB's. They look a lot like the Jonathan Baldwin type to me. Only Hakeem Butler is really able to create any separation on the outside, in addition to being a beast to try and tackle.

    Brown is outstanding at feeling a DB's leverage and is able to sink his hips in and out of breaks. He plays with a physicality and mentality of a defensive player. I just love the kid. Really do. I think the Bolden comparison is an excellent one - with Brown being a faster version.
     
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    Agree that his body positioning is great and that it's very important. Michael Thomas and DeAndre Hopkins stand out as guys who often win that way.
     
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    Most Underrated: Pick one - Britain Covey, Kanawai Noa, Tyler Johnson, Greg Dortch, Van Jefferson, Riley Ridley, Anthony Ratliff-Williams.

    Most Overrated: Hard to say....maybe Marquis Brown. He's fast, but he's slight at 170 pounds.
     
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    Was just coming to talk to you about Tyler Johnson. He's smooth! Reminds me a little of Robert Woods (some Chad Johnson/Ocho-Cinco, as well). Love the variety of routes he runs and how he sets up DB's. Line him up anywhere, and he'll create separation. Looks stronger at the catch point this year, too. Guessing he'll run in the 4.50-4.57 range, but he shows good burst and gets in and out of his breaks really well.

    I don't know if he'll declare, given the modest raw production that Minnesota's passing game allows, but he's among my very favorites. Also like that he's a team captain - not surprising giving what a technician he is.
     
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    K.J Hill, along with all of Ohio State’s WR’s have shown drastic improvement since Brian Hartline took over as WR coach. I think Hartline will be a big time coach someday. But back on point, love me some K.J. Hill.
     
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    Good pick. He'll be at or near the top of this list of slot receivers at some point. At worst he's #2.
     
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    Rakeem Butler is a man child
     

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