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I respect this magazine very much, and look forward to it every August. They rank 1,183 NFL players, with a few paragraphs describing the strengths and weaknesses of each, including linemen, DBs, everyone. While the writing isn't as good as it used to be, it's still a good source.

That being said, their scouting service does not share the prevalant high estimation of our individual players. They rank all players by position, regardless of left or right. In other words, they rank all tackles together, all guards together, all DEs together, all CBs together. Anyhow, here's the breakdown of our potential starters... And it's not pretty:

QB - Dante Culpepper: 13th (behind Vick, Simms??).
RB - Ronnie Brown: 7th
FB - Fred Beasley: 28th
WR - Chris Chambers: 11th
WR - Marty Booker: 101st (ouch)
TE - Randy McMichael: 8th
(here's where it gets real ugly)
T - LJ Shelton: 50th ("has a history of lackluster play")
G - Jeno James: 27th ("displays only adequate tools; does not finish blocks")
C - Rex Hadnot: 77th (although, this rating is among guards)
G - Bennie Anderson: 82nd
T - Vernon Carey: 60th

(for argument's sake, we'll say 4-3)
DE - Jason Taylor: 5th
DT - Keith Traylor: 90th ("aging and must be rested")
DT - Dan Wilkinson: 66th ("great initial pop; takes too many plays off")
DE - Kevin Carter: 49th ("has lost a step")
OLB - Channing Crowder: 21st
MLB - Zach Thomas: 8th (their choice for "on the decline")
OLB - Donnie Spragan: 51st
CB - Travis Daniels: 31st
CB - Will Allen: 50th ("avoids collisions and misses tackles")
S - Yeremiah Bell: 51st
S - Renaldo Hill: 64th

K - Olindo Mare: 25th
P - Donnie Jones: 40th.

Of their top 200 overall players in the NFL, our highest rated is 53rd (Taylor), and we have a total of 6.

Now, i'm not going to sit here and say they generally don't know what they're talking about. But these ranking are disappointing. While they have seemingly underrated many Dolphin players, they are spot on with many others, especially some aging veterans that we WAY overspent for in free agency. This football team needs to really gel before we should be annointing it a playoff contender. It can not get by on solid coaching alone. An argument can be made that we really only have 6 red or blue chip players.

One the positive side, the mag. does rank Jason Allen the 2nd best rookie safety, Derek Hagan the 4th best rookie WR. Though I still believe we should have taken OG Davin Joseph at 16... Ah well.

Flame away, but try and be objective.
 
Just wondering where they had Culpepper rated last year before his injury? Have they always rated him that low?
 
Who cares about their individual rating, the key is how do they play as a team ie. Big daddy takes plays off and keith traylor is aging meaning has to take plays off, those two guys in the same team are a match made in heaven
 
Springveldt said:
Just wondering where they had Culpepper rated last year before his injury? Have they always rated him that low?

3rd...

Something is different about this year's addition, i must say... Not only was it 2 weeks late, but there's no letter from the editor, no explanation of their scouting service, no editorial contact information, etc. ... They've also scrapped kicker and punter write-ups, and have gone from nice glossy pages to the cheap newspaper style... It's just shoddy overall, compared to years past...
 
I would not sit here and blow off that they don't know anything but I do believe that there are a lot of people that write about sports that do NOT have an eye for talent. They can't see the big picture or evaluate based on multiple aspects. They base their opinion on what they hear other people say. I don't know how to rate a lineman because I don't watch them much during a game (too much other more exciting things going on) but to rate Zach Thomas out of the top 2 in the league is just stupid. He consitantly has the most tackles in the league and defenses plan around him. Same with Jason Taylor. Opposing defenses game plan to get around them week in and week out. Even I can see that not too many other linebackers get the attention that Zach does and only 1 or 2 other DE's get the attention that JT gets.
That's OK though, it's all going to come down to the end of the year and if we do what is expected then none of this will matter.
 
Since when are Yeremiah Bell and Dan Wilkinson starters? If Big Daddy cracks the lineup it will be at NT over Traylor.
 
I don't understand. Are they ranking kickers and punters together? They're two completely different positions. It would be like putting WR's and RB's together. But, it would seem they would have to be otherwise Donnie Jones ranking 40th doesn't make sense (behind backup punters?). Either way, wasn't he 1st in the league last year in avg yards per punt? Which punters were ranked above him?
 
im not even gunna get started with that one heheh.

but i dont see at what point Carter lost a step.... and Zach certainly hasnt started to decline yet so theyre predicting it i guess. And CC should be in his top 10 before Ronnie. Sorry there just isnt 10 better WRs than Chris out there... if so youd have guys like Santana Moss and maybe plaxico ahead of him and thats nonsense. I wouldnt even take Chad over CC.
 
DolFan Dan said:
I don't understand. Are they ranking kickers and punters together? They're two completely different positions. It would be like putting WR's and RB's together. But, it would seem they would have to be otherwise Donnie Jones ranking 40th doesn't make sense (behind backup punters?). Either way, wasn't he 1st in the league last year in avg yards per punt? Which punters were ranked above him?

ok, well, they have him and 9 other punters ranked with a 5.0 score... so i guess you could say they have him tied for 31st... there are several punters who were without a team at their press time ranked above Jones... sad... Jags and Giants have two punters listed above him, yes...

yes, they rank Ks and Ps seperate...
 
ckparrothead said:
Since when are Yeremiah Bell and Dan Wilkinson starters? If Big Daddy cracks the lineup it will be at NT over Traylor.

those were the highest rated on our team at that position... it's worse numbers for anyone else you might suggest as our starters...
 
Who cares? As long as we play tough together as a TEAM, we can win! I don't put any stock in stuff like this.
 
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