Some interesting stats at this juncture

[royalshank]

Just for fun:

- Eric Rowe leads the team in FF w 3 - that’s also good enough for 7th in the league. Didn’t notice that to be honest.

- X has 2 FF of which both he recovered (1 scoop and score).

- Tua’s YPA is almost 1.5 yards > Brisset. He also gets sacked a lot less per pass attempt.

- Gesicki has a lot of catches. He’s up there in the league leaders for TEs this year.

- Sanders has missed 2 FG from each range except 20-29.

- Our DBs have a lot of sacks. Phillips leading team just ahead of Ogbah but good contribution from everyone.

- Out longest punt return is 16 yards and KO return 25 yards.

- In the Team vs Team aggregate stats amazing how we closed the gap on most measures compared to what this looked like 6 weeks ago.

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[GhostArmOfMarino]

The ST stats are scary. I'm not worried about Sanders, but our return game has been awful this year.

I don't want Waddle returning kicks anymore, not due to injury but because in all honesty he isn't good at it in the NFL. He doesn't have the vision, and he's a WR who outran everyone in college on returns so I don't expect him to quite honestly.

 

[ANUFan]

The ST stats are scary. I'm not worried about Sanders, but our return game has been awful this year.

I don't want Waddle returning kicks anymore, not due to injury but because in all honesty he isn't good at it in the NFL. He doesn't have the vision, and he's a WR who outran everyone in college on returns so I don't expect him to quite honestly.

I like Waddle as a receiver. But I’m not thrilled about him as a kick return/PR guy. He doesn’t really “go” he sits and assesses and then try to use his speed to burst through holes that “may” develop.

ST is one of those things where the return guy needs to “forces” holes and force guys to violate coverage intergrity and then take advantage of it.

 

[supurduper]

I like Waddle as a receiver. But I’m not thrilled about him as a kick return/PR guy. He doesn’t really “go” he sits and assesses and then try to use his speed to burst through holes that “may” develop.

ST is one of those things where the return guy needs to “forces” holes and force guys to violate coverage intergrity and then take advantage of it.

I agree he hesitates but I think that will eventually lead to a huge return when we really need it

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

I like Waddle as a receiver. But I’m not thrilled about him as a kick return/PR guy. He doesn’t really “go” he sits and assesses and then try to use his speed to burst through holes that “may” develop.

ST is one of those things where the return guy needs to “forces” holes and force guys to violate coverage intergrity and then take advantage of it.

Exactly.

Returns (especially punts but also kick offs) are basically a split second decision of finding what you believe to be the best wall of blockers, best mismatch, best angle, whatever, and taking off for it. Not being indecisive and giving the coverage unit time to converge.

 

[tommyp]

I like Waddle as a receiver. But I’m not thrilled about him as a kick return/PR guy. He doesn’t really “go” he sits and assesses and then try to use his speed to burst through holes that “may” develop.

ST is one of those things where the return guy needs to “forces” holes and force guys to violate coverage intergrity and then take advantage of it.

agreed. i think he can get better at it but honestly i don't want to risk him there. same with holland too

 

[EPBro]

The ST stats are scary. I'm not worried about Sanders, but our return game has been awful this year.

I don't want Waddle returning kicks anymore, not due to injury but because in all honesty he isn't good at it in the NFL. He doesn't have the vision, and he's a WR who outran everyone in college on returns so I don't expect him to quite honestly.

I AM worried about Sanders.

You should ALWAYS be worried about a kicker with the yips in close games...

 

[Jimi]

I like Waddle as a receiver. But I’m not thrilled about him as a kick return/PR guy. He doesn’t really “go” he sits and assesses and then try to use his speed to burst through holes that “may” develop.

ST is one of those things where the return guy needs to “forces” holes and force guys to violate coverage intergrity and then take advantage of it.

Yah that’s spot on. I will say though, his game speed has noticeably increased over the last month or so, so I don’t think it’s a stretch to imagine he would do the same in the kick return game with a little more experience.

Moot point anyhow though, as we don’t want our franchise offensive weapons on special teams regardless.

 

[danstilldaman]

Waddle didn't just all of a sudden forget how to return kicks, he was one of the best returners in college football, Devin Hester like. He is special at it, even though it could be risky. Some **** tends to fall on coaching, scheme, and personal.

 

[terphin]

and the midget makes the pro bowl

 

[GhostArmOfMarino]

Waddle didn't just all of a sudden forget how to return kicks, he was one of the best returners in college football, Devin Hester like. He is special at it, even though it could be risky. Some **** tends to fall on coaching, scheme, and personal.

Eh, in college he was a lot faster, better coached, and agile than most players by a lot. I know it's the SEC, but not every player on every team has pro talent.

In the NFL he still may be blazing fast and agile, but the difference isn't as big as it was between him and the college opposition. He needs to be more decisive and have better vision on returns at this level. That's on him.

 

[ANUFan]

Waddle didn't just all of a sudden forget how to return kicks, he was one of the best returners in college football, Devin Hester like. He is special at it, even though it could be risky. Some **** tends to fall on coaching, scheme, and personal.

Difference is college vs. NFL. His Alabama teams where always levels of talen better than the competition so it wasn’t hard to find holes all over the place. It’s not like that at the NFL level. You absolutely need to press things to create small holes, bad angles etc and exploit them.

 

[danstilldaman]

Difference is college vs. NFL. His Alabama teams where always levels of talen better than the competition so it wasn’t hard to find holes all over the place. It’s not like that at the NFL level. You absolutely need to press things to create small holes, bad angles etc and exploit them.

I agree with last sentence, but to say a blanket statement college vs. NFL and leave it that is wrong imo. He has proven that he can acclimate to this leagues speed at the receiver position. His acceleration and fast-twitch muscle fibers can't be argued with, I think it would be just a matter of time and he'd look like Tyreek Hill in his first few years returning. I absolutely disagree 100% that he was a product of Alabama when it's comes to anything football related, and his body of work so far just validates that for me as well.

 

[ANUFan]

I agree with last sentence, but to say a blanket statement college vs. NFL and leave it that is wrong imo. He has proven that he can acclimate to this leagues speed at the receiver position. His acceleration and fast-twitch muscle fibers can't be argued with, I think it would be just a matter of time and he'd look like Tyreek Hill in his first few years returning. I absolutely disagree 100% that he was a product of Alabama when it's comes to anything football related, and his body of work so far just validates that for me as well.

No! No! Obviously I’m not saying he doesn’t have the skillset. What I am saying is it’s a lot easier in college and being on a team like Alabama to create plays on special teams compared to the NFL.

 

[royalshank]

No! No! Obviously I’m not saying he doesn’t have the skillset. What I am saying is it’s a lot easier in college and being on a team like Alabama to create plays on special teams compared to the NFL.

Yes it’s a special skill. And everyone is faster, bigger, better coached than in college. I don’t want him returning kicks for injury concerns.