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Some players who flashed during Dolphins camp. And study reveals something notable on Tua

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A six-pack of Miami Dolphins notes on a Monday:

▪ Very few conclusions can be drawn from an offseason program that featured no tackling, limited 11-on-11 work and no contact between the offensive and defensive lines.

But if you’re looking for Dolphins players that flashed (quarterbacks aside), several should be on the list, a group including — but not limited to — cornerback Noah Igbinoghene, receiver Robert Foster and tight end Hunter Long.


Igbinoghene, the 30th overall pick in the April 2020 draft, made a terrific play in coverage during a red zone drill, forcing DeVante Parker to catch a pass out of bounds.

“He’s an incredible talent,” cornerback Byron Jones said of Igbinoghene. “I think the way he’s approaching the game this year is going to be special. I think, to be honest as a rookie, he balled out in camp. I was really impressed with the way he performed and approached the game.


“Chuck [cornerbacks coach Charles Burks] is not easy on anybody. He’s certainly not easy on the guys he knows that expectations are very high for. Noah did an incredible job of just being there, being attentive every single day and learning and trying to put forth what Coach Chuck was wanting out of him. He’s doing the same thing this year. He’s comfortable, he understands the defense, he understands what it’s like to be in the National Football League.”

Foster, meanwhile, made several nice catches in the two minicamp sessions, including one difficult contested catch for a 25-plus-yard gain in the middle of the field. Foster, the former Buffalo and Washington receiver, has speed and size (6-2) and has added value because he’s a gunner on special teams - a job that Mack Hollins handled last season.

Hollins, the only Dolphins player who appears to be wearing a mask during practice, had a TD catch during the minicamp.

Long, the rookie tight end, made several nice catches and received more opportunities during minicamp, with Mike Gesicki wearing a red noncontact jersey and limited somewhat because of a shoulder injury sustained late last season.

Other non-QBs who impressed include running back Myles Gaskin, receiver Will Fuller (teammates have raved about him), receiver Jaylen Waddle (50-yard touchdown catch) and receiver Albert Wilson (appears to have regained his speed and shiftiness after his 2018 hip injury).


Though it’s difficult to make any conclusions on offensive linemen or defensive front seven players because of the lack of contact and the limited number of 11 on 11 drills, rookie linebacker Jaelan Phillips generated some pressure on the quarterback and made a nice play in the run game.

And second-year defensive end Jason Strowbridge and former Patriots free agent addition Adam Butler also applied pressure on the quarterback.

And credit cornerbacks Nik Needham, Trill Williams, Justin Coleman and Jamal Perry; safeties Jevon Holland and Nate Holley; and linebacker Brennan Scarlett for interceptions during the two-day minicamp.

▪ OLGB, a sports betting platform in the United Kingdom, surveyed 759 NFL fans and gathered Twitter data to determine which NFL athletes receive the most love and hate on Twitter.

Notably, 49.5 percent of the tweets about Tua Tagovailoa are positive, making him the NFL’s “seventh-most most beloved player on the platform overall, and the AFC East’s most popular player,” according to the study.


Using positive tweets as a gauge in this study, Tagovailoa finished as the fourth “most beloved” quarterback in the NFL, ahead of Patrick Mahomes (11th), Josh Allen (12th), Tom Brady (14th), and Joe Burrow (19th), among others.

A majority of fans surveyed called Brady the NFL’s most hated player.

Here’s the full study.

▪ Don’t be surprised if Jesse Davis starts at left guard, though Solomon Kindley is formidable competition.

Davis said he’s fine playing there or anywhere. “The left side I haven’t really gotten too many reps at but that’s how we get better is by doing it,” Davis said.


 
Notably, 49.5 percent of the tweets about Tua Tagovailoa are positive, making him the NFL’s “seventh-most most beloved player on the platform overall, and the AFC East’s most popular player,” according to the study.

I have a feeling if certain extra critical posters took a break from twitter that 49.5% would shoot up at least 10%.
 
I read several articles praise Trill Williams. Besides having a cool first name, his versatility to play multiple positions in the secondary stood out and he looked like he belonged.

Flo values versatility more than any Dolphin coach I’ve seen and that’s a good thing.

If Howard does get traded or is a no show, I could see Trill making the 53 to go along with Jones, Iggy, Needham, and Coleman.

Smythe seems to have hurt his chances dropping a couple of passes. TE position is crowded and I see Miami going with Gesicki, Long, Shaheen, and Carter.

I hope Kindley can develop into an above average G, but given the youth on the OL having a vet like Davis playing might be a good thing. Less about Kindley failing and more about the veteran leadership and solid play Davis provides.
 
Yeah, the only comment in there that stung a little was about Kindley.
But again, he's young, he may need some time. Jackson Davis that center from Baltimore Hunt Eichenberg.
How do we feel about that Oline?
 
Davis beating out Kindley would not be a bad thing; he's proven to be a solid, durable player, and our investment in Kindley was relatively minimal.

Kindley would then be kept as our backup Guard and could continue to work towards earning the job.

I've always thought that the folks who wanted to get rid of Davis and his minimal salary were nuts.
 
Davis beating out Kindley would not be a bad thing; he's proven to be a solid, durable player, and our investment in Kindley was relatively minimal.

Kindley would then be kept as our backup Guard and could continue to work towards earning the job.

I've always thought that the folks who wanted to get rid of Davis and his minimal salary were nuts.

As noted, there is something to be said for starting a couple of vets
 
I have a feeling if certain extra critical posters took a break from twitter that 49.5% would shoot up at least 10%.

on the flip side, if the people desperate to believe posting positive things about tua on twitter will make him good stopped then it would drop way down
 
That was a nice little Barry update. Hit on a lot of the players we are counting on. Was especially happy to hear that Fuller, Waddle and Wilson are performing as advertised plus the nice strides by Long. Iggy developing of course is huge but just for that new offensive pop this was an encouraging read.
 
Things worth noting:

-Jesse Davis is the ultimate professional. Speaking and acting - he is a LEADER. A lot to be said for that, a lot of value in that in getting more out of others too

-Gesicki having issues still from shoulder 5-6 months ago is something to keep an eye on

-PFF rates players with a minimum of 100 snaps as their basis? You got to have a minimum of 200 snaps (maybe more?) in my opinion… you’re telling me you’re going to use the same basis of judgment for a guy who had 50+ snaps a game versus a guy who has 6-7? I can’t grade full time players against guys who only see so little in game exposure. These aren’t backups, these are 3rd or 4th string players or a starter who only played in 2-3 games... not worth grading comparatively to full term players on such little tape.

-interesting notes about options of what to do with Howard’s contract… which as suspected, seems to imply this is not about “I want the highest salary on the books” but more about more guarantees. Definitely don’t want Miami to change anything, but there were a couple options that were very fair for the team… and the final comment about it, that doing a small renegotiation after a *great* season might be setting a GOOD precedent. I like that angle.
 
I agree with your last point mentioned from the article, we talk about bad precedent all the time with re-working contracts but perhaps a small move, a bit extra guaranty, after a great season is actually good precedent. People perform how they are incented to perofrm so I agree with that angle. It would have to be minor as mentioned and not a complete reworking of the contract.
 
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