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----------Statistical Comparison: Mare/Vinatieri/Vanderjagt/Edinger

Which kicker do you prefer?

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I'm tired of reading "opinions" of which kicker is our best option.
Here's the cold-hard facts on FG kicking:

Mare
Career (9 years):
Total: 219/267 (82%)
40-49: 53/73 (73%)
50+: 13/24 (54%)

Last 3 years:
Total: 59/75 (79%)
40-49: 15/18 (83%)
50+: 7/11 (64%)


Vinatieri
Career (10 years):
Total: 263/321 (82%)
40-49: 70/99 (71%)
50+: 8/17 (47%)

Last 3 years:
Total: 76/92 (82%)
40-49: 20/26 (77%)
50+: 0/4 (0%)


Vanderjagt
Career (8 years):
Total: 217/248 (87.5%)
40-49: 65/81 (80%)
50+: 14/21 (67%)

Last 3 years:
Total: 80/87 (92%)
40-49: 24/27 (89%)
50+: 1/2 (50%)


Edinger
Career (6 years):
Total: 135/180 (75%)
40-49: 48/67 (72%)
50+: 16/24 (67%)

Last 3 years:
Total: 66/94 (70%)
40-49: 21/31 (68%)
50+: 9/14 (64%)


Conclusions:
1. Edinger is definitely a step DOWN from the other 3 in accuracy.

2. Mare has the strongest leg.

3. Mare attempted 11 50+ FGs (making 7) in the last 3 years compared with Vinatieri (0/4), and Vanderjagt (1/2).

4. If we had Vinatieri/Vanderjagt, we wouldn't "go" for 50+ FGs very often because they lack the strength/accuracy from 50+.

5. It's definitely a MYTH that Vinatieri is a "money" kicker, especailly over the past 3 years (77% from 40-49, vs. 83% Mare, 89% Vanderjagt). He's just been fortunate to have made a couple of big kicks in front of a national audience (I bet Mare would've made the same kicks if given the chance). He hasn't made a 50+ in over 3 years, and only attempted 4 of them. I can see now why NE is letting him go for the price.

6. Vanderjagt definitely is accurate, but weak-legged. He hardly attempt anything 50+. Maybe his accuracy is "boosted" by NOT attempting as many long, hard FGs. Mare is nearly as accurate (83% vs. 89%) from 40-49 yards over the past 3 years. Plus, Mare's leg is stronger (thus, we can "go" for 50+ FGs instead of punting, and Mare can handle Kick-offs).



And wouldn't Vinatieri & Vanderjagt be MORE expensive than Mare???
Thus, my pick is definitely: MARE
 
Also, Vandy kicks indoor +50% of the time. Giving him the accuaracy advantage.
 
Your results are skewed. Vander whatever kicked a minimum of 8 games a year in a dome. With-out wind or adverse conditions it will unfairly boost his average. I suggest you get the split stats and compare all three kickers stats either only outside or only inside.
 
2. Mare has the strongest leg.
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Mare 13/24 from +50
Edinger 16/24 from +50

Don't get me wrong IMO Mare is the best option by far. The factor that would tell Mare has the strongest leg would be the TouchBacks and opponent field position.
 
jdprock said:
Mare 13/24 from +50
Edinger 16/24 from +50

Don't get me wrong IMO Mare is the best option by far. The factor that would tell Mare has the strongest leg would be the TouchBacks and opponent field position.
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OK, here's the TouchBack stats for 2005:

Mare: 16 TBs out of 73 Kickoffs :eek:
Edinger: 0 TBs out of 72 Kickoffs :shakeno:
Vinatieri: 10 TBs out of 80 Kickoffs. :o
Vanderjagt: Do I need to bother? :lol:
 
I've been saying this for the last 3 years. Mare has one bad game against the Pats and all of a sudden he's crap...He's not making the money that Vinitieri or Vanderjagt were making and he's definitely better than Eddinger. With the other holes we have, creating one just doesn't make sense...
 
LarryFinFan said:
I've been saying this for the last 3 years. Mare has one bad game against the Pats and all of a sudden he's crap...He's not making the money that Vinitieri or Vanderjagt were making and he's definitely better than Eddinger. With the other holes we have, creating one just doesn't make sense...
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YEP-YEP:cooldude:
 
Mare is the best choice considering money and productivity! No Kicker is worth over 2 mil!
 
nice post to show MARE is the elite kicker in this league. Common Nick, give the man his money, i would take him over those other clowns anyday
 
i voted Mare. I belive he is 1.4 mill in this years cap, But if we cut him wouldnt he cost even more? and we would also have to pay just as much for his replacemnt ( who wont even be as good.)
 
Lets just keep Mare, wish he would take a pay cut. Maybe him & Saban can find a middle ground.
 
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