Stephen Ross is the real problem

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  1. NYC#1finsfan

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    I agree with you 1000% Every time I watch the Titans I get sick to my stomach watching Matthews tear it up. And he's just the tip of the ice burgh, Hogan, Welker, etc.......
     
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    I dont think Ross is making personal decisions. I think those are left to the football guys. Ross has opened his wallet, improved the stadium. He’s done a lot.
     
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    The problem is that those "football guys" are generally pathetic.
     
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    I did defend Ross but looking at it again I agree with most of you. He hired the people who run that team and have been terrible for the most part. Yea, I think Gase gets another year or two but Tbum is not good and the underlings are questionable.
     
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    The stadium improvements mean nothing when the product on the field is subpar. The team's problems are 100% Ross' fault. All of the football minds he's hired have harmed the team rather than helped. A good owner can identify a strong GM/coach. He doesn't have to know X's and O's, but he needs to be able to assess that ability in others. As other posters have mentioned, how on earth could he have ever even considered hiring Tannenbaum when he was an abject failure in NY. And, Tbaum is doing the same to us, right before our very eyes. The contract he gave to Alonso is horrific. It would cost more to cut him next year than keep him? The draft picks traded away for Caroo and Anthony? If any single one of us were owner, we'd have already fired Tbaum for driving this team into the ground. But not Ross, he doesn't want to lose his BFF.
     
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    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    Ross certainly isn't the problem
     
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    Ross needs to stop relying on New York suits to guide his football operations. He is way too reliant on his circle, this is how we got Tannenbaum here. Tannenbaum doesn't know how to manage a roster. Until Ross finds the best football guy he can find to run the front office (one who doesn't have any existing business ties to his Real Estate company), we will continue to operate in football purgatory.
     
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    My biggest gripe with Ross the last few years has been his determination to land a Super Bowl at the cost of the team. He has turned the corner, imo and is probably just as furious as the fans now.
     
  9. Snoop

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    Ross is the problem. the guy is an idiot.
     
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    Ireland - X
    Hickey - X
    Tannenbaum - X
    Grier - I'll probably have another X to put down here on January 1st, 2021.

    Carl Peterson, Matt Higgins, whoever else is advising Ross on football matters, is recommending lousy people to run this football team.
     
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    All you can say is that Ross plainly admitted his ownership has been a basic failure

    in terms of the team evolving into a winning program.

    He said we're no closer now than the day he took over.

    the record he's achieved is a loser

    10years = 72 wins 88 losses

    only 1 winning season in 10 years!

    The facts are overwhelmingly bad!

    So now we'll see if Chris Grier can provide the billionaire answer...
     
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    Ross isn’t learning from his mistakes.
     
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    Caught on the fence regarding this topic.

    On one hand I really don't think Ross gets too involved in the running of the franchise & team. However, the footballing staff he has employed to take care of this side of the business really has been poor. I feel a lot of them have taken advantage of Ross & said the right things to keep him happy and to keep their jobs.

    But surely after a number of years you must question if its simply bad luck on the poor coaching staff he continually ends up with or he's been badly advised by the people around him & not taken note.

    If I was successful business owner I would make sure I surround myself with people who know the industry I'm investing in - I don't think Ross has done this and is ultimately responsible for this. However, the quick fix is replace the people he has surrounded himself with in advising regarding football decisions rather than hounding a wealthy owner out of town & hoping another one invests in the Dolphins without moving them to a city that suits them.
     

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