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Stills+Carroo or.....Landry+Carroo?

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I'm just asking here. It seems there's no way we'll be able to keep both Landry and Stills so we need to make a choice. At first glance I'm sure most people will say we need to keep Landry and say bye to Stills....not so fast. There's no way Carroo can replace either of course but who is he closer to be, Stiils or Landry(I know, neither)but we need to make a choice. I love Landry, not just his stats but the intangibles that he brings but is he really the guy we want to build our offense around? Earl Weaver used to say"a singles hitther goes 3 for 4 and he'll drive in 1 run. A power hitter will go 1 for 4 and drive in 3. Landry will catch 100 passes and get you 5 TD's tops. Stills with catch 55 and get you 10 TD's. Of course ideally I'd love to have both back but again, money for only one and the point is to make your team better. This is not a question of which player is better but which decision will help make the whole team better. Balance matters so lets say we keep Landry
Landry will catch 90 passes(70 of them will travel 5 yards)4 TD's
Parker will catch 45 and safety over the top he'll get us 6 TD's

Keep Stills? He'll catch 60 passes with 10 or 11 TD's
Parker without help over the top as much will catch 55 with 8 TD's
Carroo will catch 40 with 5 TD's
Thomas will catch 37 with 7 TD's and with the balance Ajayi will do his thing.

If we keep Stills of course Landry would still be on the team for 2017 but most likely gone after that in which time Carroo would be ready(if he's ever going to be)
It just doesn't make sense to me to build our offense around what mostly is a possesion type of WR even thought we all love him
Replacing what Stills bring imo will be harder to do than replacing Landry but that's just my 2 cents and I expect the first reaction to be negative but the ones that look closer will see that what I'm saying might make a little bit of sense

Ozzy rules!!
 
I stopped reading when you started throwing out whacky numbers - you especially shouldn't be banking on Stills putting up 10+ TD's every year. Relax
 
I'd keep Landry over our entire receiving core and then some, so yeah.... That's where I stand there. Top 10 WR who brings it not just every week, not just every play, but every single moment he's on the football field. Whether he's running a route, running with the football, or blocking he gives his 110% effort. Can't say that about some HOF receivers even (not saying he's a HOF yet). Irreplaceable.
 
I may be wrong, but with evolution of college football featuring more and more passing I think there are more receiver and corner candidates entering the year each year. Those two position may be the easiest to fill in the roster. I wouldn't consider signing Stills at $12 million and if Landry ends up in the $18 million range I would have to think hard on that one too. If Landry is in the $14 to $15 million range I would be surprised that Stills value was so close to his.
 
Landry is a pro bowler team leader type. You know the type you build your team around. Stills is a role player who thrives when others are doing there thing. let stills walk and I bet he gets cut in 2 years because some idiot gm over spent on him and he'll probably be back on the market at a reasonable team friendly contract. You guys hate on Caroo but when I saw him in games last year he looked like a player to me. Big strong blocks well and makes tough catches. So what he was inactive towards the end of the year. We didn't draft the kid to play special teams.
 
Landry stays, everyone else falls into the "dime a dozen" category. Still hope for Parker though.
 
Not sure why anyone thinks that we would be keeping Landry at this point. Front office hasn't yet shown, with any drafted player, that they plan on keeping them around after their rookie contract. Plain and simple if you weren't drafted by Tannenbaum don't plan on staying around.
 
Not sure why anyone thinks that we would be keeping Landry at this point. Front office hasn't yet shown, with any drafted player, that they plan on keeping them around after their rookie contract. Plain and simple if you weren't drafted by Tannenbaum don't plan on staying around.

I think there will be exceptions to that rule.
 
OP uses Stills putting up 10-11 TD's as his example for why we should keep him - it's asinine...

I was basing that on this past year. Yes I know each year is different. The main question thought is this, will our offense/team be better or not? For the responses I got it seems that most think the offense will be better with Landry than with Stills so ok. It was just a question. Hard to believe people on here get so mad every time someone has a different view

Ozzy rules!!
 
OP uses Stills putting up 10-11 TD's as his example for why we should keep him - it's asinine...

Wasn't directed at you.

Banking on Caroo in 2017 is well, I won't call it asinine. I would be a hell of a lot more confident with the guy who has the most td receptions for us the last two seasons.
 
Remember when you pay a free agent it's not based on the numbers he put up the prior year it's based on what you think he can realistically do for you going forward. If you're paying Stills based on expecting 9-10 td's per season you're going to be disappointed. You're not going to pay him $12 million based on just the 42 reception he had last season either.
 
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