Strength of Victory: Denver vs Miami

[mandal24]

Right now the Broncos have 60 wins when totaling all teams that they have beaten.

Miami has 53 wins when totaling all teams that they have beaten.

Assuming the Fins win out, and the Broncos lose @ Philly and beat KC at home: We would most likely lose to the Broncos do to SOV. But:

I cant believe I'm saying this but we need the Jets to win out. Since we've beaten them twice, we would get 4 additional wins in SOV.
Here is a crappy list I made quick to show how we could get in over the Broncos if they lost @ Philly and beat KC.

I have total wins/team/(future total wins)/(predicted schedule)

Denver - 9-7

9 cinci (10) (beat KC and lose @ NYJ)
3 cleveland (4) (beat Oakland, lose to Jax)
5 oakland (5) (lose to both Cleveland and Baltimore)
9 dallas (10) (beat Washington, lose to Philly)
9 patriots (11) (this cancels out with our Pats win so doesn't matter)
11 san diego (12) (win @ Tenn, play starters half and lose to Wash.)
8 giants (9) (win vs Carolina, lose @ Minnesota- Philly could catch Vikes)
3 kc (3) (losses to Cinci and Denver)
3 kc (3) (losses to Cinci and Denver)
= total of 60 total wins (67 predicted wins)
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Miami - 9-7

5 bills (6) (win one-either ailing Falcons or benched Colts)
7 jets (9) (wins @ Indy, vs Bengals- both teams not much to play for)
7 jets (9) (read above)
2 bucs (2) (lose @ NO and vs Atlanta)
6 panthers (7) (win one- either Giants or @ NO- players play half)
9 patriots (11) (this cancels out with our Pats win so doesn't matter)
7 jax (8) (lose @ NE, win @ Cleveland)
7 houston (8) (lose @ Miami, beat Pats-nothing to play for)
7 pitt (7) (lose vs Baltimore, @ Miami)

=57 (67 predicted wins)

All can definitely happen except Jets winning out but it could happen! Especially if we see Colts players getting benched. Jets are too physical and its not worth the injury IMO. I also dont trust the Cowboys and Giants winning games but I gave them the benefit of the doubt for the Broncos schedule.

Next tie breaking procedure is strength of schedule and our schedule easily beats the Broncos.
Playing in the stronger AFC East then the AFC West plus playing the Saints worked out nicely for us. It should put us over the top.

 

[RobertHorry]

So basically if Den loses to Philly and beats KC while Jets win out we would make the playoffs if we win out?

 

[eger]

Miami is not a playoff caliber team, and I understand you're a die-hard fan - But honestly, you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment later. I'm just going to enjoy the next 2 games left of the season, and my expectations are the same as going into the year (which are not too high).

 

[DolfanISS]

I agree with Eager however the 2 AFC Wild Card teams will both likel;y not be playoff calibur teams as they are all about the same. Any one of them could beat any other on any given Sunday. Therefore as long as the Dolphins have a pulse I will cheer for them to make the playoffs. At this point I'd just like to see a meaningful game in week 17 vs Pittsburgh, anything else would be a bouns. Lets beat Houston for the first time in their storied history (LOL) and go from there.

 

[eger]

I agree with Eager however the 2 AFC Wild Card teams will both likel;y not be playoff calibur teams as they are all about the same. Any one of them could beat any other on any given Sunday. Therefore as long as the Dolphins have a pulse I will cheer for them to make the playoffs. At this point I'd just like to see a meaningful game in week 17 vs Pittsburgh, anything else would be a bouns. Lets beat Houston for the first time in their storied history (LOL) and go from there.

exactly :up:

 

[guatemalanfan]

we would also get in with the titans losing one and Denver losing to KC

 

[arsenal]

Miami is not a playoff caliber team, and I understand you're a die-hard fan - But honestly, you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment later. I'm just going to enjoy the next 2 games left of the season, and my expectations are the same as going into the year (which are not too high).

so who is a playoff calibre team? the broncos 2-6 in their last 8 games? or which of the other 7-7 teams? texans? Pittsburgh? Titans? Jags?

who should get that last spot, because somehow being 7-7 against the hardest schedule in the league somehow makes us less qualified for the playoffs than the other 7-7 teams who had easier schedules...

 

[wildvillage519]

To get in as a wildcard:

1. Miami needs to win
2. Denver loses to Philadelphia
3. Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh
3. Jacksonville loses to New England
4. Tennesee loses to San Diego

With that scenerio we would control our destiny going into week 17 from what the yahoo generator says. All very possible out comes.

 

[mandal24]

Miami is not a playoff caliber team, and I understand you're a die-hard fan - But honestly, you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment later. I'm just going to enjoy the next 2 games left of the season, and my expectations are the same as going into the year (which are not too high).

When a team goes to the very end against the supposed best team in football (the colts), id say that shows heart and that shows that we can compete with anyone! We never get blown out. were in every game we play and if henne can be a little smarter with the football and ricky can stop fumbling at the worst possible times, we'd have two more wins.. its about progression and this team continues to improve especially on defense..

 

[mandal24]

To get in as a wildcard:

1. Miami needs to win
2. Denver loses to Philadelphia
3. Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh
3. Jacksonville loses to New England
4. Tennesee loses to San Diego

With that scenerio we would control our destiny going into week 17 from what the yahoo generator says. All very possible out comes.

denver losing doesnt matter... and that is the best scenario but theres another scenario if we and denver both went 9-7 that i am showing based on strength of victory

 

[bluehaze]

so who is a playoff calibre team? the broncos 2-6 in their last 8 games? or which of the other 7-7 teams? texans? Pittsburgh? Titans? Jags?

who should get that last spot, because somehow being 7-7 against the hardest schedule in the league somehow makes us less qualified for the playoffs than the other 7-7 teams who had easier schedules...

I think his point was essentially it doesn't matter because pretty much any of those teams will be one and done once going up against the likes of San Diego, Philadephia, Indianapolis etc...out of all of them pretty much only ones stand a chance are the Steelers and that's only if Polamalu is playing.

I mean yea it's nice if we get into the playoffs and get to see one more game hell maybe even two if we got extremely lucky but it's a whole different calibre of play once you get deep in the playoffs and we just aren't built for that yet. If we were we wouldn't be stressing about getting into the playoffs in the first place...it would be a given and it will be eventually but laying your hopes and dreams on us getting into the playoffs this year is just setting yourself up for a huge disappointment.

Realize it for what it is, if we get in we were lucky if we go anywhere we were even luckier and if we made it to the Super Bowl it would be a freakin miracle. Being realistic doesn't make you a bad fan, it just makes it a bit easier to deal with the losses because you have a better understanding of the team and what they are actually capable of.

Yea I want them to make the playoffs, yea I want them to get to the Super Bowl and of course I want them to win it but am I going to lay my hopes and dreams on it happening this season? Not a chance in hell because I know better...it would take nothing short of a miracle for that to happen and if it did I would be freakin ecstatic about it simply because I know just how ridiculously amzing that would be but to expect it and ***** about it when it doesn't happen or get upset anytime anyone points out the fact that it is rather ridiculous to expect it is just silly.

We are still a couple 2-3 years away if everything goes according to Parcells plan, just be happy with the fact that we see obvious improvement and can recognize the fact that we're at least headed in the right direction at this point. I am alot happier now than I was a few years ago when we were on the verge of 0-16 that's for sure, right now playoffs are the least of my concerns :)

 

[sensation24]

I wonder what everyone will be saying if Miami does get into the playoffs and are one of those surprise teams that knocks teams in the wildcard and divisional playoffs out and take it to the AFC championship. I've seen stranger things happen. If miami does get into the playoffs there isn't a team in there Miami cant hang with. They proved it against the 3 best teams in the league this year against NO, IND & SD.

 

[jason_taylor]

To get in as a wildcard:

1. Miami needs to win
2. Denver loses to Philadelphia
3. Baltimore loses to Pittsburgh
3. Jacksonville loses to New England
4. Tennesee loses to San Diego

With that scenerio we would control our destiny going into week 17 from what the yahoo generator says. All very possible out comes.

1 miami needs to win .... i dont know but we should win at home against houston and if palamalo isnt back we can win that game

2 denver loses to philadelphia imo eagles will beat denver wesbrook suspose to be back in that game and i see eagles winning

3 baltimore loses to pittsburge pittsburge looks like there back on track and imo will beat baltimore

4tennessee loses to san diego right now chargers are one of the hotest teams in the afc behind colts so i say imo chargers will beat tenn

so imo if we can take care of what we need to take care of we should be able to get the last wildcard spot it dosent matter if we get blown out in the playoffs it will give henne and co, to get a taste of playoff experence
so i like our chances of still makeing it into the last wildcard

 

[eger]

Miami is not a playoff caliber team, and I understand you're a die-hard fan - But honestly, you're just going to be setting yourself up for disappointment later. I'm just going to enjoy the next 2 games left of the season, and my expectations are the same as going into the year (which are not too high).

Let me just re-quote myself in this post, becuase it seems like a lot of people are dilusional and don't realize we are rebuilding. :rimshot: