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Stupid decision to get rid of Gus Frerotte.

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Dont blast, just read and respond. Im not saying Gus was the answer, or that he would have taken us to the super bowl, and i know hindsight is 20/20, but the truth is Gus threw better last season towards the end of the year than Harrington or Cpep have this year. Seeing how there is a GIGANTIC question mark with Culpepper (no, you cant say he is our future right now. His knee is busted) and Harrington still being a consistent interception thrower andn o more than a decent game manager, keeping frerrote another year would have been beneficial, even as a back up role. The guy was getting very comfortable with the offense and the guys respected him a great deal. He really wanted to be here and was a true competitor.

We would have won yesetrday with Frerrote, no Harrington required.

Please keep in mind this is not an anti Harrington or Cpep thread necessarily as much as its a pro Frerrote thread. The guy didnt get enough credit.

He did the same things and even better things than Harrington and esp. Cpep but people blasted him while praising these guys just because Frerotte is not a big profile name and he doesnt carry a lot of swagger. The truth is if he was with our team now you guys wouldnt give him NEARLY as many breaks as you do with Harrington. I like Joey but some of his throws have been completely perplexing. If Saban was seeing this as another part of the rebuilding process, we should have kept Gus around.
 
jac3477 said:
Dont blast, just read and respond. Im not saying Gus was the answer, or that he would have taken us to the super bowl, and i know hindsight is 20/20, but the truth is Gus threw better last season towards the end of the year than Harrington or Cpep have this year. Seeing how there is a GIGANTIC question mark with Culpepper (no, you cant say he is our future right now. His knee is busted) and Harrington still being a consistent interception thrower andn o more than a decent game manager, keeping frerrote another year would have been beneficial, even as a back up role. The guy was getting very comfortable with the offense and the guys respected him a great deal. He really wanted to be here and was a true competitor.

We would have won yesetrday with Frerrote, no Harrington required.

Please keep in mind this is not an anti Harrington or Cpep thread necessarily as much as its a pro Frerrote thread. The guy didnt get enough credit.

He did the same things and even better things than Harrington and esp. Cpep but people blasted him while praising these guys just because Frerotte is not a big profile name and he doesnt carry a lot of swagger. The truth is if he was with our team now you guys wouldnt give him NEARLY as many breaks as you do with Harrington. I like Joey but some of his throws have been completely perplexing. If Saban was seeing this as another part of the rebuilding process, we should have kept Gus around.
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He did, at the end of the year. He looked the same as Harrington at the beginning of the year. Harrington's only played 4 games and we just beat the damn Bears yesterday! We don't have Frerotte anymore but we do have Harrington let's see where we are after he get's some more games under his belt at least we have a chance to learn from our mistakes at this point.
 
I really dont think Gus was any better than Harrington or Culpepper.. Gus was pretty damn bad. He basically took the worst of both guys we have now.. He was immobile AND made stupid mistakes AND was innacurate as hell..
 
Well your analysis is fine and dandy and all that but you have one major flaw ... we didn't get rid of Frerotte.
 
well frerotte had the long ball down, joey would have had 5 Td's if he didn't overthrow receivers all day
he still did good!
 
ItsOurTime32 said:
well frerotte had the long ball down, joey would have had 5 Td's if he didn't overthrow receivers all day
he still did good!
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Are you freaking kidding me!? Frerotte overthrew just about EVERYTHING last season..
 
We just need to keep running the ball like we did on Sunday. It will open up things in the passing game and give Joey some more space opperate.
 
I guess every gm in the league and coach keeps missing it on frerotte because not one team offered him a job as a starting QB. Kitna has a job frerotte is on the bench, that speaks volumes.
 
Guys am I incorrect for remembering we didn't get rid of Gus, he left? If not, he would have stayed, we would not have gotten Joey, Culpepper would be benched, therefore Gus would be starting?

So the original premise of the thread is invalid because we did not get rid of Gus? That's what I thought happened. And he gave us a nice F You on the way out too.
 
Yeah Frerrote is older, but it looks like we'll have to adress the qb situation again at the end of the season which means we coulda uses him for another year, AND he had the plusses of already being comfortable with our offense especially CC. CC lit up with Frerotte and you cant deny that. All Im saying is at least we knew what we were getting, and we wouldnt had to embark on these crazy experiments with Cpep and Harrington, maybe we wouldnt have started 1-6, realistically maybe could have been 3-4 with Frerrote. I dunno, I just dont feel Harrington gives us anything to be too excited about, and hes been in there for a few games now. Cpep's knee is so bad he wont even practice again this year, who knows if he can be our future.
 
dlockz said:
I guess every gm in the league and coach keeps missing it on frerotte because not one team offered him a job as a starting QB. Kitna has a job frerotte is on the bench, that speaks volumes.
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I see where youre coming from, but somebody traded Brett Favre at one point in his early career, Brady was on the bench, st louis traded Bettis etc. the nfl makes stupid decisions, just cus its the pro league doesnt make it mistake free.

By the way, noone offered him the starting role, but Linehan was more than happy to pick him up as his back up, its no surprise Linehan has worked with Frerrote for a while now.
 
"hindsight is 20/20" some people are oblivious to that fact and others arent and they still have something to say about "what we should have done".

Frerotte was anything but accurate. You keep throwing it up and Chambers is bound to get one of them. I'm just happy that we threw down field for once. That's why we were able to run so well.
 
jac3477 said:
I see where youre coming from, but somebody traded Brett Favre at one point in his early career, Brady was on the bench, st louis traded Bettis etc. the nfl makes stupid decisions, just cus its the pro league doesnt make it mistake free.

By the way, noone offered him the starting role, but Linehan was more than happy to pick him up as his back up, its no surprise Linehan has worked with Frerrote for a while now.
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The key point is that Favre was traded "early in his career" - which is far from Frerotten's situation!!! He has been a journeyman QB on his 7th team so far - and he has had plenty of opportunities to prove he is starting calibre. He is a well below average QB with a strong and inaccurate arm, which deems him useless.

Linehan and Frerotten are very good friends - which is why he was the only one to offer him yet another backup job in St Louis. Linehan was also the reason why Frerotten was in Miami in the first place!
 
SkapePhin said:
I really dont think Gus was any better than Harrington or Culpepper.. Gus was pretty damn bad. He basically took the worst of both guys we have now.. He was immobile AND made stupid mistakes AND was innacurate as hell..
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I don't disagree with anything you said except for the "immobile" comment. Gus is the MAIN reason that Miami had fewer sacks than in 2004. Gus will not gain first downs like Michael Vick, but his pocket awareness is by far the best I've out of a Miami QB since Marino. You can quote me on this. If you have any of the games, the O-line stunk up the joint (The Buffalo game rings a bell). They took credit for Gus' play. I also like his arm. He's got one helluva gun!
 
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