Tackles Ranking - 2019 Draft Post Combine

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  1. SCLSU Mud Dogs

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    I agree man. How is possible to have a draft without Jonah WIlliams and Andre Dillard and Dalton Risner not in top 10? Those are absolute beasts. Top 10. If a team gets them they solve all their pass rush problems instantly and for "15" years.
     
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    Dillard is 25 and cannot run block. Still a good prospect but I’ve got a 3rd round grade on him. Jonah Williams deserves more love because he can play every position on the line.
     
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    He'll be 24 in October, and it's hyperbole to say he can't run block. His experience as a pass blocker should be viewed as a positive, because pass blocking is far more important in the NFL. I don't understand why anyone would want to move him to Guard, but there's no way he should fall out of the 1st.
     
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    My evaluation and I’m sticking with it and I won’t touch him until late round 2. Not as much of a knock on him as the talent in front of him. Who’s moving him to guard?
     
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    OP is moving him to guard.
     
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    I'd be moving everyone with under 34 arms to guard, or tackle. Which is why I would not draft them, because to me they are projections.
     
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    I really have a hard time following what you're trying to say.
     
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    Is he saying either position? Is he saying that moving them makes them undraftable? Does the center have to have over 34 inch arms?
     
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    Here is the list of playing or starting tackles in the AFC with arms under 33.75", I just went through about 30, and there are 6:

    NE Isaiah Wynn 33.4"
    NE Joe Thuney, 32.3"
    NE Dan Skipper 33.4"
    CIN Bobby Evans 33"
    IND Braden Smith 32.1"
    KC Mitchell Schwartz 33.5"


    I would not even look at a tackle with arms under 33.75", So, the following are a scratch:

    Max Scharping, 33.625" (this is close, I'd look at the film for UDFA)
    Jonah Williams, 33.625" (this is close and Id look at the film, and eliminate him based on film)
    Paul Adams, 33.5"
    Andre Dillard, 33..5"
    David Edwards, 33.375"
    Nate Davis 33.125"
    Michael Dieter, 33.125"
    Kaleb McGary, 32.9"
    Dennis Daley 33.375"
    Sua Opeta 33.25"
    Javon Patterson 32.5"
    Ryan Bates 32.5"
    Trevon Tate, 32.375"
    Andre James 32"


    By the same token, there are 3 of 30 tackles in the AFC with arms over 35.5".

    Ronnie Stanley, 35.6"
    Cordy Glenn 35.8"
    Julien Davenport, 36.5"


    Therefore, in this draft Id eliminate:

    Martez Ivey, 36.25" arms



    That leaves the following Draft tackles for consideration:


    Josh Miles, 35.625
    Isaiah Prince, 35.5
    Oli Udoh 35.375
    Donnell Green 35.25
    Greg Little 35.25
    Jawan Taylor 35.125
    Chuma Edoga 34.75
    Bobby Evans 34.75
    Devon Johnson 34.75
    Ethan Greenidge 34.75
    Derwin Gray 34.375
    William Sweet 34.375
    Ryan Pope 34.25
    Mitch Hyatt 34.125
    Connor Mcgovern 34.125
    Jackson Barton 34
    Yodny Cajuste 34
    Fred Johnson 34
    Tytus Howard 34
    Josh Nijman 34
    Dalton Risner 34
    Cody Ford 34
    Trey Pipkins 33.9



    Then eliminate all tackles under 310.

    Isaiah Prince, 305
    Chuma Edoga 308
    Connor McGovern 308
    Mitch Hyatt 303
    Trey Pipkins 308
    Tyler Jones 303



    Then anyone who did not test in 3 of 40, vert, broad, bench, shuttle, cone.

    Ryan Pope
    Fred Johnson
    Ethan Greenidge
    Jawan Taylor
    Bobby Evans
    Brandon knight
    Donnell Greene
    Yodny Cajuste



    Then Id eliminate anyone who ran 5.3 40 and over

    Greg Little
    Dalton Risner
    Josh Miles


    Then I'd put the remaining under 320 into UDFA bin:

    William Sweet 313
    Tyler Roemer 312
    Jackson Barton 312
    Josh Nijman (played at 317 at VT, even tho he tested at 324)
    RT Tytus Howard, 322 lbs, 29.5 vert, 103 broad (played at 311)


    RANKING

    I'd rank the remaining tackles in terms of weight, broad, vert (explosion). So this is what remains,

    330-340 lb tackles

    RT Cody Ford Oklahoma, 329 lbs, 28.5 vert, 104 broad
    LT Devon Johnson, Ferris State, 338 lbs, 27.5 vert, 89 broad

    320's Tackles

    RT Oli Udoh. 323 lbs, 28.5 vert, 105 broad (played at 336)
    LT Derwin Gray, Maryland, 320, 90 broad (played at 330)


    Now we can look at the film to eliminate further.
     
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    Derwin Gray. Left Tackle Maryland #55








    Looks good to me.
     
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    Oli Udoh, Elon Right Tackle #73





    Look okay, meh. UDFA priority.
     
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    Devon Johnson, LT, Ferris State #52





    Looks a little slow, plays upright with strength, does not play with explosion.
    Late rounds, UDFA.
     
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    RANKING - Draftable Tackles

    RT Cody Ford, Oklahoma
    LT Derwin Gray, Maryland


    UDFA - preference
    LT Devon Johnson, Ferris State
    LT Max Scharping
    LT Andre Dillard, Wash
    RT Oli Udoh, Elon
    RT Tytus Howard
    RT Josh Nijman, VT
     
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