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Taking a OT at #8

With the strong possibility that a quality OT will be available at #8 would it make sense to take one and move James to OG?

Could he transition to OG?



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It wouldn't be my first choice, but it could make sense if other players are gone. Love Brandon Alberts when he's on the field. The problem is he is injury prone and getting up in years. Adam Gase is an offensive minded coach so he may want to nail down the left tackle spot long-term. In the short-term someone like Stanley could play right tackle with James moving to guard. Stanley could perhaps play left guard as well.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
It wouldn't be my first choice, but it could make sense if other players are gone. Love Brandon Alberts when he's on the field. The problem is he is injury prone and getting up in years. Adam Gase is an offensive minded coach so he may want to nail down the left tackle spot long-term. In the short-term someone like Stanley could play right tackle with James moving to guard. Stanley could perhaps play left guard as well.
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I agree with you here. I'd only make the distinction that if we did draft Stanley, he would be the better OG than James, and James has shown to be good enough at RT, so I think the coaches would move Stanley to OG - leaving James at OT. Gase moved Long from OG to RT in Chicago, and while he wasn't as dominant at RT, I think he played well enough to give Gase confidence that he can transition a guy (with the tools) back to OT after starting in the NFL as an OG.

If we could trust Albert's health at all, you could forget the OT position in the First Round, but you have to consider it - especially since Miami hopes that it won't be drafting in the top-10 in 2017. If Stanley is off the board (of course Tunsil will be off the board), there may be value at OT in RD 2 - just depends on how many go in RD 1. But, Tunsil and Stanley are the only OT's worth considering at 8, and I doubt either will be available. Just have to hope that the new/old group can evaluate O-line talent.
 
Its not sexy....but it might be the smart long term pick.

Its all in how you evaluate the corners in this draft, if you think their average or are gone....and a Myles Jack is gone....Stanley might be the value.

Albert seems to be breaking down....so drafting a guy to play guard, backup left tackle and longterm left tackle could be a wise pick.

I think trade down could be the smart move also.
 
OT should defintley be on the draft board at 8. For two reasons. In the short term it fixes swing tackle and one OG spot. In the long term you get a replacement for the injury prone Brandon Albert. The question in the whole deal is which tackle do you stick at guard for 2016. Id be tempted to do that with Albert who played guard at UVA and was originally projected to be a guard in the pros.
 
SF Dolphin Fan said:
It wouldn't be my first choice, but it could make sense if other players are gone. Love Brandon Alberts when he's on the field. The problem is he is injury prone and getting up in years. Adam Gase is an offensive minded coach so he may want to nail down the left tackle spot long-term. In the short-term someone like Stanley could play right tackle with James moving to guard. Stanley could perhaps play left guard as well.
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I had a similar thought click here see post 10

Though, I thought Stanley might be able to play OG until Albert is ready to retire.

If Stanley is the pick at @ #8 & BA gets injured... I'd leave James where he is and kick Stanley out to OT. Perhaps Adam, Clyde, & Chris can work improve the games of Douglas & Turner?

Further, it would not bother me to see Douglas continue cross training at Center and/or Turner at Tackle. As allegedly prepared as Joe was; he sure as hell couldn't adapt or plan for contingencies.
 
If a scenario where Ramsay, VHIII, Jack and Bosa are all gone...
We will have to try to go at things a different way.
Using the top pick to fix the guard situation in the short run and the LT situation int he long run may be what we need.

The side benefit is with the long game in mind it helps you solidify your Tannehill decision and if you go rookie Qb at least you will have a cadillac offense for him to step into.
 
My preference is for a defensive difference maker at #8 but the OL does have to be addressed.I am hoping the Fins add at least one better than average OG in free agency so the team can really address the defense in the Draft.

I would love Jack at 8 or one of the 3 top DB's.Or possibly an edge rusher like Lawson.

I am still unsure about Jaylon Smith due to his injury but if the DR's say he will be 100% eventually I would take him, but not at #8.
But when the time comes the BPA at 8 might well be an OT.

IF that is the case my preference would be to trade down a little bit and then draft defensive BPA.
 
For the record Albert has only played one year where he never missed a game in his entire career. Albert is not the answer. Miami needs to stop giving big contracts to injured players and stop drafting injured players period. Also please draft players that have played their position since high school. No projects for the love of God.
 
No tackle in the first rd.. Both tackles are healthy going into the season 2017 is a different story with Albert but he will be the LT next year. Brandon did play well after we forced him back early from his torn up knee
 
utahphinsfan said:
I had a similar thought click here see post 10

Though, I thought Stanley might be able to play OG until Albert is ready to retire.

If Stanley is the pick at @ #8 & BA gets injured... I'd leave James where he is and kick Stanley out to OT. Perhaps Adam, Clyde, & Chris can work improve the games of Douglas & Turner?

Further, it would not bother me to see Douglas continue cross training at Center and/or Turner at Tackle. As allegedly prepared as Joe was; he sure as hell couldn't adapt or plan for contingencies.
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This is just typical Philbin esque thinking. Let's draft OL until we have five first rounders who can maybe play well enough that our coaching staff doesn't have to worry about OL?

How about getting a guard through FA and coaching up the players and the millions of dollars and high picks we already have?

Our defense is so bad and lacking in playmakers I can't believe there's so many people who don't see this
 
Well, one thing is for certain, and that is the fact that we aren't ruling it out based on our o line play last year. Depends who falls and how they evaluate CBs in this draft.
 
Foo27 said:
This is just typical Philbin esque thinking. Let's draft OL until we have five first rounders who can maybe play well enough that our coaching staff doesn't have to worry about OL?

How about getting a guard through FA and coaching up the players and the millions of dollars and high picks we already have?

Our defense is so bad and lacking in playmakers I can't believe there's so many people who don't see this
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Obviously, you did not read or even see my initial post.

Stanley would be my pick if Lawson, Ogbah, Jack, & Ramsey are off the board. OG does need to be addressed though... my preference would be Garrett (Stanford) or Kirkland/Tretola (Arkansas) on day 2.

In an ideal scenario, it'd be... rd 1) Lawson, rd 2) Fuller, & rd 3) Kirkland or Tretola
 
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