Tannehill changing how he attacks deep throws

[DKphin]

"We talked to coach Philbin yesterday and that’s one of the things he told me," Tannehill said. "Just go out there and let it rip. When a guy gets that open, sometimes you kind of tense up and you don’t want to overthrow him so you end up underthrowing him. I just have to go out there and let it rip and not overplay it."
I asked Tannehill if he's likely to take Philbin's advice and attack the situation differently this week.
"Yes, I think so," Tannehill said. "We had a couple other shots in the game where he got behind guys and one time I got flushed out got bumped and flushed out and I had to throw it to (Rishard) Matthews over the middle and another time I got sacked on it. We had a couple more opportunities where he got open, just wasn’t able to get him the ball. You’ve got to hit the ones that are there, if you only get one shot a game to get him the ball I have to just throw it out there and let him run underneath it.

"That’s what he’s here to do. He’s got the legs to run underneath it and it’s on me to just throw it out there and let him get it.”

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[Shouright]

What a misplaced emphasis. The passing game would be so much better if Tannehill were simply allowed to roam the field more instead of hanging out in the pocket all day. Those downfield throws would happen more often, and would hinge far less on perfect timing to be executed. His YPA would go up, and his sacks would go way down.

Instead we're farting around talking about what he has to do from the pocket to achieve perfect timing with somebody downfield, as though that's the main problem here.

The problem is that this guy is severely miscast in a pocket passing offense.

 

[ANUFan]

What a misplaced emphasis. The passing game would be so much better if Tannehill were simply allowed to roam the field more instead of hanging out in the pocket all day. Those downfield throws would happen more often, and would hinge far less on perfect timing to be executed. His YPA would go up, and his sacks would go way down.

Instead we're farting around talking about what he has to do from the pocket to achieve perfect timing with somebody downfield, as though that's the main problem here.

The problem is that this guy is severely miscast in a pocket passing offense.

Completely disagree.

 

[chuck dezl]

I could see the bootleg helping out. changing the snap count up definitely helped. I think we're on the right path here

 

[Heinegrabber]

Wow second year making elementary upgrades to his game. Thank you coaching staff.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

Hallelujah!! They must be reading this forum. We've only been shouting this from day 1.

 

[NCFINFAN13]

What a misplaced emphasis. The passing game would be so much better if Tannehill were simply allowed to roam the field more instead of hanging out in the pocket all day. Those downfield throws would happen more often, and would hinge far less on perfect timing to be executed. His YPA would go up, and his sacks would go way down.

Instead we're farting around talking about what he has to do from the pocket to achieve perfect timing with somebody downfield, as though that's the main problem here.

The problem is that this guy is severely miscast in a pocket passing offense.

All of this may be true ... but it's not misplaced emphasis IMO. I keep referring to statements Rapistburger has made in regards to not being able to overthrow Wallace. This is the key. Tanney needs to fling it as far as he can, so Wallace can run under it. That's where this begins.

Even with Rapistburger we've seen how in most attempts, Wallace has had to slow down and adjust to the underthrow. The difference is that his underthrows weren't as short as Tanney's underthrows have been for the most part.

While Rapistburger's throws often come when he breaks the pocket, it's not a matter of picking which type of attempt is better for Tanney at this point. It's a matter of him having to become proficient in any type of attempt, in or out of the pocket, for the long ball to work.


Post Script ... We now have Dan Marino involved with this team; wouldn't it be a good thing to have him give Tanney a long ball clinic? I think so.

 

[FSU Truth]

Again....I almost feel I have to mention that Big BEn was an establish vet before Wallace was even part of the team....of coarse he was going to have a little more success.

As for "letting it rip"...good, now lets see him do it.

 

[Phantom]

This coaching staff is just so quick on fixing problems.

 

[roy_miami]

I've never played QB but I'm guessing simply putting a little more on it is easier said than done, I imagine its all feel based like shooting hoops, as soon as you start thinking too much your feel goes to hell.

 

[Heinegrabber]

His deep ball just needs to be thrown earlier
If he throws it even a second earlier Wallace is still open
He is waiting on wWllace to beat his man it to late then

 

[Shouright]

All of this may be true ... but it's not misplaced emphasis IMO. I keep referring to statements Rapistburger has made in regards to not being able to overthrow Wallace. This is the key. Tanney needs to fling it as far as he can, so Wallace can run under it. That's where this begins.

Even with Rapistburger we've seen how in most attempts, Wallace has had to slow down and adjust to the underthrow. The difference is that his underthrows weren't as short as Tanney's underthrows have been for the most part.

While Rapistburger's throws often come when he breaks the pocket, it's not a matter of picking which type of attempt is better for Tanney at this point. It's a matter of him having to become proficient in any type of attempt, in or out of the pocket, for the long ball to work.


Post Script ... We now have Dan Marino involved with this team; wouldn't it be a good thing to have him give Tanney a long ball clinic? I think so.

Roethlisberger made his living with Wallace by extending plays and throwing to Wallace downfield when he was wide open, after he'd broken coverage. While of course you want to be as proficient as possible on the deep passes from the pocket, and you want to work on those, as well, I don't think you want to limit yourself to those and exclude the vast opportunity available on passes that stem from the quarterback's movement out of the pocket. This team seems to emphasize pocket passing so much that it doesn't see that other opportunity right under its eyes, with Tannehill's ability to scramble and throw accurately downfield on the move.

We have a Russell Wilson type guy out there, and we're making him play like Drew Bledsoe.

 

[vt_dolfan]

I think Shou is correct to a degree. Tannehill is def capable of extending plays when he must...look at the last plays of the Baltimore and Buffalo games for proof. I do think there has been a concerted effort to force Tannehill to not get out of the pocket.

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[phishxhead]

I'm worried about a QB having to think and plan about throwing deep to open guys, instead of it just being a natural thing.

 

[J. David Wannyheimer]

You're going to see incomplete overthrows now, like you saw in the Browns game. When you overthrow a deep pass, the receiver has no chance to make a play, whereas an underthrow gives him a shot.

The fact that we're even having this conversation is a testament to what a ****ty effort Mike Wallace is giving on these throws.