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"Tannehill is going to get more people fired. He's not done" - Shannon Sharpe

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WEDNESDAY BUZZ COLUMNWhen the Dolphins and Eagles met recently, the starting quarterbacks shared an unfortunate distinction. Of the QBs with the NFL’s 20 biggest contracts, Ryan Tannehill and Sam Bradford are the only ones who have had neither a winning season nor led his team to the playoffs. And Bradford, whose Eagles are tied for first place in the NFC East, is closer to changing that than Tannehill is.
That factoid wouldn't be quite as disconcerting if Tannehill’s play was consistently good. But it hasn’t been. And some pundits are starting to go on the attack.
“Tannehill is going to get more people fired,” former CBS analyst Shannon Sharpe said. “He’s not done.”
“With Billy Lazor gone, I assume Tannehill will stop telegraphing every pass, show pocket awareness and play with anticipation and accuracy,” ESPN analyst and former personnel executive Louis Riddick said sarcastically.


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Like his job is to put people on the street, :bobdole: what an idiotic statement.

Sherman got fired because his offense could have been seen by Stevie Wonder and Lazor got fired for the same reason along with no will to adjust or release any trust to his QB.

I will say this though, if there is one person he drags down with him, fingers crossed it's Omar Kelly....
 
Wednesday Buzz: Criticism of Tannehill grows; Dolphins committed but have an out

When the Dolphins and Eagles met recently, the starting quarterbacks shared an unfortunate distinction. Of the QBs with the NFL’s 20 biggest contracts, Ryan Tannehill and Sam Bradford are the only ones who have had neither a winning season nor led his team to the playoffs. And Bradford, whose Eagles are tied for first place in the NFC East, is closer to changing that than Tannehill is.

That factoid wouldn't be quite as disconcerting if Tannehill’s play was consistently good. But it hasn’t been. And some pundits are starting to go on the attack.

“Tannehill is going to get more people fired,” former CBS analyst Shannon Sharpe said. “He’s not done.”

“With Billy Lazor gone, I assume Tannehill will stop telegraphing every pass, show pocket awareness and play with anticipation and accuracy,” ESPN analyst and former personnel executive Louis Riddick said sarcastically.

This much is clear: The Dolphins need a head coach and/or coordinator who can reverse this regression. If not, it will force a decision in spring 2017, just before the big base salaries on his $96 million contract start to kick in.

Despite his uneven play this season, the Dolphins remain committed to him, though they might draft a quarterback as protection behind him. They won't find anyone better in free agency this offseason, and they know that.

Keep in mind the $21.5 million in guaranteed money in Tannehill’s deal includes the signing bonus and his 2015 and 2016 base salaries, but nothing beyond, allowing Miami a clean break if he underperforms in 2016.

He's due between $17.9 million and $19.5 million every season from 2017 through 2020, after making $9.3 million in 2016.

One caveat: $3.5 million of his non-guaranteed $17.9 million base salary in 2017 becomes guaranteed on the fifth day of the 2016 league year, 17 months before that season.

“They need [a head coach] with a proven record to clean things up and somebody who can put together a staff to resurrect the quarterback’s career, somebody that can really get this guy playing with confidence and changing a little bit of his demeanor with his teammates,” CBS analyst and former NFL MVP Rich Gannon said by phone. “This isn’t like JP Losman or Colin Kaepernick. He throws the ball well enough.

“He has made steady progress in terms of completion percentage, decision making, touchdown to interception ratio. The guy is tough and durable. What’s troubling is the most important stat of all, which is wins and losses. That’s ultimately how you’re judged in our business.”

Tannehill is 28-32 as a starter.


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Awesome, another post mirroring exactly what someone else just posted.

Can anyone start a post about this post for me? I like this back-trackingly circular conversation we have going here...
 
Sorry did not see, already posted. Merge please.
 
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Did anyone read the whole thing? A few QBs you might have heard of thought a little differently in that same article...


Others view him more favorably.

CBS’ Phil Simms said he is going to be the starter here for a long time.

“He’s a really solid NFL quarterback,” Simms said. "[Longterm], we’ll judge him on the won/loss record.”

Rich Gannon:

“They need [a head coach] with a proven record to clean things up and somebody who can put together a staff to resurrect the quarterback’s career, somebody that can really get this guy playing with confidence and changing a little bit of his demeanor with his teammates,” CBS analyst and former NFL MVP Rich Gannon said by phone. “This isn’t like JP Losman or Colin Kaepernick. He throws the ball well enough.

“He has made steady progress in terms of completion percentage, decision making, touchdown to interception ratio. The guy is tough and durable. What’s troubling is the most important stat of all, which is wins and losses. That’s ultimately how you’re judged in our business.”

Gannon said Tannehill “reminds me of [Cincinnati’s] Andy Dalton but hasn’t shown the consistency [that Dalton has this season]. Dalton worked with [QB guru and former MLB pitching coach] Tom House. There is some merit to working with someone. Ryan has thrown the deep ball so much better and has to continue to work on it. I’m a prime example: It’s an area you can get better.

“Everything around Ryan is impacting his production or lack of production. I look at changes with the coordinator, with the head coaches, the front office and philosophical changes. Being sacked so many times. All these things impact growth and development at that position.”

Gannon said Tannehill “has to be more demonstrative. I would like to see him show some emotion at some point. If it’s me, I’m marching to New York to [owner] Stephen Ross’ office [this offseason] and say, ‘I’m pissed off and I want to see change. I’m not going to tolerate this anymore!’ Unless he’s OK with how things are. Some guys are OK with that.”

Gannon said he told his Raiders teammates in 1999, “If this [expletive] doesn’t change, I will sell life insurance.” Gannon wants to see that fire from Tannehill.

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Sorry did not see, already posted.

No biggie....I'm sure they will get merged.

A couple of these comments (from Sharpe and Simms) have been out there for awhile. Nothing wrong with some healthy criticism based on our offensive performance......it's not like we are setting any scoring records.
 
Rich Gannon, former QB, had a much more insightful opinion than Shannon Sharpe, in the same article..

“They need [a head coach] with a proven record to clean things up and somebody who can put together a staff to resurrect the quarterback’s career, somebody that can really get this guy playing with confidence and changing a little bit of his demeanor with his teammates,” CBS analyst and former NFL MVP Rich Gannon said by phone. “This isn’t like JP Losman or Colin Kaepernick. He throws the ball well enough.

“He has made steady progress in terms of completion percentage, decision making, touchdown to interception ratio. The guy is tough and durable. What’s troubling is the most important stat of all, which is wins and losses. That’s ultimately how you’re judged in our business.”

Gannon said Tannehill “reminds me of [Cincinnati’s] Andy Dalton but hasn’t shown the consistency [that Dalton has this season]. Dalton worked with [QB guru and former MLB pitching coach] Tom House. There is some merit to working with someone. Ryan has thrown the deep ball so much better and has to continue to work on it. I’m a prime example: It’s an area you can get better.

“Everything around Ryan is impacting his production or lack of production. I look at changes with the coordinator, with the head coaches, the front office and philosophical changes. Being sacked so many times. All these things impact growth and development at that position.”

Gannon said Tannehill “has to be more demonstrative. I would like to see him show some emotion at some point. If it’s me, I’m marching to New York to [owner] Stephen Ross’ office [this offseason] and say, ‘I’m pissed off and I want to see change. I’m not going to tolerate this anymore!’ Unless he’s OK with how things are. Some guys are OK with that.”

Gannon said he told his Raiders teammates in 1999, “If this [expletive] doesn’t change, I will sell life insurance.” Gannon wants to see that fire from Tannehill.

http://miamiherald.typepad.com/spor...have-an-out-whiteside-fallout-um-qb-note.html

I will say that is something that was different this Sunday. Commentators saying that he was pissed off, slamming his helmet, chewing people out. That didn't happen very often in the old offense.

When you are invested in something you care more. Tannehill was never invested in Lazor's offense, he had no input to any of it. Now that he has a voice, I suspect you will see more emotion...
 
I will say that is something that was different this Sunday. Commentators saying that he was pissed off, slamming his helmet, chewing people out. That didn't happen very often in the old offense.

When you are invested in something you care more. Tannehill was never invested in Lazor's offense, he had no input to any of it. Now that he has a voice, I suspect you will see more emotion...

I had to post this part since OP just posted TE Shannon Sharpe's opinion and left out the comments from the QBs Phil Simms and Rich Gannon. Kind of a misleading take on the article if you ask me.

At least mention the fact that Simms and Gannon (two QBs, not TEs) had positive things to say about the kid if you are going to start a thread about Shannon Sharpe saying the polar opposite. It was all in the same article lol. Its not like Dolphin fans need any help getting frustrated with RT17 this year.

But hey, negativity makes the best headlines! Just ask Omar Kelly.
 
Good piece by Barry Jackson, as always. Of course the OP would choose that quote as the thread title.

I guess this whole Tannehill debate will end in a year or so. I don't see the team keeping him in 2017 if they're still undecided on whether or not he's the "guy".
 
While Sharpe was a great player he has always been a clown. Wouldn't take anything he has to say seriously.
 
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