Tannehill is much improved in short passing game in 2nd year

[Fins1971]

One of the most noticeable area where RT17's game has improved is the short passing game.

Last year on passes thrown behind the LOS or 1-10 yards in the air he had the following numbers per game.

13 of 20 (64%) for 113 yards (5.5 per attempt), .375 TD's, .375 Int's, QBR 77.1

This year he is checking it down more often and having greater success and accuracy.

18 for 25 (72%) for 141 yards (5.8 per attempt), .916 TD's, .250 Int's, QBR 94.4

That is a pretty good improvement.

By contrast his passing on passes thrown between 11 and 20 yards has stayed pretty steady with little improvement.

2012 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

54 for 108 (50%) for 916 yards (8.5 per attempt) 3 TD's and 5 int's, QBR 69.1

2013 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

58 for 113 (51.3%) for 1024 yards (9.0 per attempt) 3 TD's and 6 Int's. QBR 69.3

It seems to me watching the games he is better than that on the intermediate passes.
But stats show otherwise.

And finally on the deeps passes thrown 21 yards and over he has regressed.

2012

15 for 45 (33.3%) for 549 yards (12.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 2 Int's, QBR 84.3

2013

9 for 41 (21.9 %) for 382 yards (9.3 per attempt) 3 TD's and 4 Int's, QBR 50.7

We actually gain as much on the intermediate passes per attempt as we do on long passes.

Check it down more often and make them tackle.

 

[Fins1971]

Ryan went 3 for 10 down the stretch on passes over 21 yards. Here are his final numbers on deep passes (thrown over 21 yards in the air)

2012

15 for 45 (33.3%) for 549 yards (12.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 2 Int's, QBR 84.3

2013

12 for 51 (23.5 %) for 468 yards (9.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 4 Int's, QBR 52.2

He regressed in that area. He will get another chance next year to improve but he better step it up.

Hitting those long passes is critical to winning. You saw when Alex Smith missed a wide open receiver in playoffs and they end up losing
Same thing happened against Jets with RT17

When you do everything right you have to hit those passes to make the Defense pay. Otherwise they will just keep stacking the box and sitting on those short routes.

 

[Shouright]

Ryan went 3 for 10 down the stretch on passes over 21 yards. Here are his final numbers on deep passes (thrown over 21 yards in the air)

2012

15 for 45 (33.3%) for 549 yards (12.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 2 Int's, QBR 84.3

2013

12 for 51 (23.5 %) for 468 yards (9.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 4 Int's, QBR 52.2

He regressed in that area. He will get another chance next year to improve but he better step it up.

Hitting those long passes is critical to winning. You saw when Alex Smith missed a wide open receiver in playoffs and they end up losing
Same thing happened against Jets with RT17

When you do everything right you have to hit those passes to make the Defense pay. Otherwise they will just keep stacking the box and sitting on those short routes.

YPA in the last two games was 3 and 5.1. Net YPA was 1.05 and 5.1. QB ratings were in the 40s. You call on too much of the rest of a team to play at levels rarely seen in the league to win under those conditions.

 

[Fins1971]

YPA in the last two games was 3 and 5.1. Net YPA was 1.05 and 5.1. QB ratings were in the 40s. You call on too much of the rest of a team to play at levels rarely seen in the league to win under those conditions.

He hits that pass to wide open Wallace and those numbers are completely different in Jet game.

 

[hoops]

so much for that underneath and intermediate accuracy being not good enough shou ...tannehills accuracy on anything other than the straight vertical is not an issue at all...timing and accuracy and placement keys of the wco and he's plenty good enough...

always was hot air to knock that

 

[rent this space]

YPA in the last two games was 3 and 5.1. Net YPA was 1.05 and 5.1. QB ratings were in the 40s. You call on too much of the rest of a team to play at levels rarely seen in the league to win under those conditions.

The rest of team played terrible just like the QB in those two games.
Over the course of the season though, Tannehill did improve in the short passing game

 

[Daytona Fin]

He hits that pass to wide open Wallace and those numbers are completely different in Jet game.

And if matthews doesn't drop that perfect pass, he probably gains 30+ yards on that play.

 

[Shouright]

For the sake of comparison, Chad Pennington, in 2008, playing for a GM, a head coach, and an offensive coordinator roundly denigrated around here, and with a supporting cast in the passing game consisting of Ted Ginn, Greg Camarillo, Anthony Fasano, and David Martin, did the following:

One of the most noticeable area where RT17's game has improved is the short passing game.

Last year on passes thrown behind the LOS or 1-10 yards in the air he had the following numbers per game.

13 of 20 (64%) for 113 yards (5.5 per attempt), .375 TD's, .375 Int's, QBR 77.1

This year he is checking it down more often and having greater success and accuracy.

18 for 25 (72%) for 141 yards (5.8 per attempt), .916 TD's, .250 Int's, QBR 94.4

That is a pretty good improvement.

Chad Pennington
310 attempts
234 completions
1880 yards
75% completions
6.06 YPA
6 TDs
2 INTs
94 QB rating

By contrast his passing on passes thrown between 11 and 20 yards has stayed pretty steady with little improvement.

2012 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

54 for 108 (50%) for 916 yards (8.5 per attempt) 3 TD's and 5 int's, QBR 69.1

2013 (passes thrown 11-20 yards)

58 for 113 (51.3%) for 1024 yards (9.0 per attempt) 3 TD's and 6 Int's. QBR 69.3

It seems to me watching the games he is better than that on the intermediate passes.
But stats show otherwise.

Chad Pennington
132 attempts
72 completions
1252 yards
54.5% completions
9.5 YPA
6 TDs
2 INTs
95.9 QB rating

And finally on the deeps passes thrown 21 yards and over he has regressed.

2012

15 for 45 (33.3%) for 549 yards (12.2 per attempt) 3 TD's and 2 Int's, QBR 84.3

2013

9 for 41 (21.9 %) for 382 yards (9.3 per attempt) 3 TD's and 4 Int's, QBR 50.7

We actually gain as much on the intermediate passes per attempt as we do on long passes.

Check it down more often and make them tackle.

Chad Pennington
34 attempts
15 completions
521 yards
44% completions
15.3 YPA
7 TDs
3 INTs
93.8 QB rating

 

[hoops]

here comes the penny stuff again...guy does whatever he can to crap on tannehill...penny with some of the best timing accuracy and placement of any qb working the underneath and intermediate...

only reason he lasted as long as he did with that pop gun arm...even though defenses didnt have to defend the entire field very much...not much outside the #s cause the arm wasn't good enough...so they could stack inside the numbers like the ravens did when they exposed him in the playoff game

 

[Shouright]

so much for that underneath and intermediate accuracy being not good enough shou ...tannehills accuracy on anything other than the straight vertical is not an issue at all...timing and accuracy and placement keys of the wco and he's plenty good enough...

always was hot air to knock that

I suspect you believe it to be "hot air" because you fail to understand the concept that when deep passing is less accurate than normal, short and intermediate range passing needs to be more accurate than normal.

Tannehill's deep passing is less accurate than normal, but his short and intermediate range passing is not more accurate than normal.

 

[hoops]

i suspect i'm wasting time...good day

 

[Fins1971]

So much for Pennington being a noodle arm. He threw more long TD passes in 2008 than RT17 did in 2 years.

I like how Pennington was consistent across all the range of passes. Much tougher to defend.

 

[Shouright]

here comes the penny stuff again...guy does whatever he can to crap on tannehill...penny with some of the best timing accuracy and placement of any qb working the underneath and intermediate...

only reason he lasted as long as he did with that pop gun arm...even though defenses didnt have to defend the entire field very much...not much outside the #s cause the arm wasn't good enough...so they could stack inside the numbers like the ravens did when they exposed him in the playoff game

And yet his deep passing QB rating -- with the supporting cast from the GM on down to Greg Camarillo, noted above -- was nearly 94, with a 15.3 YPA.

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i suspect i'm wasting time...good day

You sure are. Later. :)

 

[rent this space]

Lol, someone points to Tannehill's improvement and suddenly he's compared to Pennington in 2008

 

[hoops]

So much for Pennington being a noodle arm. He threw more long TD passes in 2008 than RT17 did in 2 years.

I like how Pennington was consistent across all the range of passes. Much tougher to defend.

he had a noodle arm...just cause he completed more vertical than tannehill has to date dont let that fool you...most of those completions the wr stopped completely to make the catch...

arms not remotely in the same ball park with tannehills...and most never for more than 40 yards in the air if that...some nicely placed balls though at times provided it wasn't out of his arms reach