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Tannehill Observations this season

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Let me preface this by saying I like Tannehill and I think his level of play will get better this Sunday.

These are just two things i have noticed this season more so than the previous.

1. His ball security in the pocket is about as egregiously poor as I have ever seen it. The ball should be controlled with two hands until he's ready to sling it but he stand in the pocket with one hand on the ball while also having it extended away from his body.

2. He doesn't believe in his legs at all. There have been so many occasions this season where he gets pressure from a 300+ pound lineman and fades backwards to ultimately throw it away. Now i understand this might be a safe play but if he ever wants to shake his " game manager" ( which to this point can't even be applied) he needs to the occasional risk. A head fake or stutter is usually sufficient to buy yourself an angle to beat the lineman to the sideline and move towards the LOS. This is where you get to utilize your speedsters Stills/Parker who have gotten enough time to be virtually uncover-able. I know this is nitpicking but seeing Tannehill get flushed backwards and off balance by slow lineman is unbearably frustrating.

3. His foot work has BARELY changed. Something I really thought would improve with Lazor over the past year.
 
the fading away thing being more prevelant i think is a product of so much contact...he's definitely fading away more...possible bad habit he's picked up due to being pile driven so much the last 2 years or more...that much contact creates bad habits...we've gotten lucky that the eye level hasnt dropped or he hasnt just stopped going thru progressions just to get the ball out of hand

phantom pressure definitely creeps in when you are hit at the rate he has been...this stuff starts adding up
 
My bad should have started a " Which player knows the most about Parliament" thread.
 
hooshoops said:
the fading away thing being more prevelant i think is a product of so much contact...he's definitely fading away more...possible bad habit he's picked up due to being pile driven so much the last 2 years or more...that much contact creates bad habits...we've gotten lucky that the eye level hasnt dropped or he hasnt just stopped going thru progressions just to get the ball out of hand

phantom pressure definitely creeps in when you are hit at the rate he has been...this stuff starts adding up
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That's an absolute possibility, the second you start fading back like that the play is essentially dead since any throw you're going to make from that angle is going to be terribly inaccurate.
 
I really wanted to stop reading when you mentioned about him shaking being a "game manager" then said he's not even that.... a 4,000 yard passers-by who's a game manager? Gimme a break. Anyone that can see the type of pressure he's facing on a consistent basis and not think this is severely limiting his potential needs their head examined. He's not a perfect QB or a top 5 guy, but Tannehill can play in the NFL at a high level. I've never seen an NFL QB however play Great with zero running game, and an OL that allows constant pressure.
 
next-year said:
Let me preface this by saying I like Tannehill and I think his level of play will get better this Sunday.

These are just two things i have noticed this season more so than the previous.

1. His ball security in the pocket is about as egregiously poor as I have ever seen it. The ball should be controlled with two hands until he's ready to sling it but he stand in the pocket with one hand on the ball while also having it extended away from his body.

2. He doesn't believe in his legs at all. There have been so many occasions this season where he gets pressure from a 300+ pound lineman and fades backwards to ultimately throw it away. Now i understand this might be a safe play but if he ever wants to shake his " game manager" ( which to this point can't even be applied) he needs to the occasional risk. A head fake or stutter is usually sufficient to buy yourself an angle to beat the lineman to the sideline and move towards the LOS. This is where you get to utilize your speedsters Stills/Parker who have gotten enough time to be virtually uncover-able. I know this is nitpicking but seeing Tannehill get flushed backwards and off balance by slow lineman is unbearably frustrating.

3. His foot work has BARELY changed. Something I really thought would improve with Lazor over the past year.
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I have noticed the "fading away" For some reason he has begun to escape the pocket backwards and not laterally... Once he starts running backwards play over, if he can escape laterally he can still keep eyes down field and be in position to make a throw
 
ideally he hops forward and then flushes laterally aaron rodgers does it all the time...hops forward and then shifts laterally to have time and space...but you can't do it if your guards are in your stomach all the time
 
I've noticed he's patting the ball just before he throws...not sure if this is increased or if he has always done it. Either way, the D lineman have keyed on it and they jump as soon as they see it.
 
oasis said:
I've noticed he's patting the ball just before he throws...not sure if this is increased or if he has always done it. Either way, the D lineman have keyed on it and they jump as soon as they see it.
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brady does it too...keeps one hand on the ball when he goes thru progressions also...people are just grasping at straws now
 
hooshoops said:
brady does it too...keeps one hand on the ball when he goes thru progressions also...people are just grasping at straws now
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nah I'm not looking to criticize him....just noticed the Bills D-line was knocking a lot of balls down early with very well-timed jumps. They're obviously a good D-line so maybe they're just really good at this - whether it's studying the timing of our offense or watching the QB I don't know.
 
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