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Tannehill Strip Sack: Who's to Blame ?

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[h=1]The big play: Who’s to blame for another Ryan Tannehill strip-sack?[/h] October 1, 2016 | Filed in: 2016 Regular Season, Jason Lieser.



Rinse, repeat. Another strip-sack produced by Ja’Wuan James and Ryan Tannehill. (Getty Images)

Not good. Not good at all.
A strip-sack is about as ugly as it gets for an offense, and the Dolphins experienced two in five days courtesy of right tackle Ja’Wuan James and Ryan Tannehill. One of those nearly cost Miami a game against Cleveland, and the other ruined their last shot at staying with Cincinnati on Thursday.

It’s easy to blame offensive linemen for these, and James deserves at least half the responsibility. Here’s a look at how it happened:

The Dolphins are down 13-7 shortly before halftime. It’s third-and-four, and they line up with three receivers stacked on the left side:

Cincinnati looked pre-snap like it might be blitzing, but sends just four and drops the linebackers back into coverage:

As the pressure starts coming, Tannehill is clearly dialed in on the left side waiting for a route to develop. He stays fixed there the entire play:

One second into the play, James is squared up directly against Carlos Dunlap. No games, no stunts, just a straight-on, man-to-man challenge:

They engage for the first time here:

Dunlap breaks free, and Tannehill is oblivious to it:

James buys Tannehill an extra second by re-engaging:

Here’s James’ last chance to knock Dunlap off his course toward Tannehill:

By the way, left tackle Laremy Tunsil isn’t blameless in this. If Dunlap hadn’t gotten to Tannehill, Will Clarke probably would have:

Throughout the play, Tannehill appears to have no idea what’s happening to his right:


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Your thoughts...? :ponder:

 
I dunno where he ranks in the NFL in fumbles, but it sure seems like a lot. Isn't that his 3rd this season?

Every time I see a pass rusher get close I think he's going to fumble it. It really doesn't make sense how he has no instincts in the pocket after all this time. Despite what gase says you can't teach this stuff, it's instict.

When I boxed After awhile my hands Would do things without me even thinking. I would land shots without even really knowing I was going to throw them, or even where I was going to throw them. I'd block and slide punches I never saw. After years and thousands of reps, your body just learns what to do, and gains a feel for it.

Landry was right, tannehill is a robot. He just doesn't have the ability of normal human athletic instincts.
 
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I dunno where he ranks in the NFL in fumbles, but it sure seems like a lot. Isn't that his 3rd this season?

Every time I see a pass rusher get close I think he's going to fumble it. It really doesn't make sense how he has no instincts in the pocket after all this time. Despite what gase says you can't teach this stuff, it's instict.

When I boxed After awhile my hands Would do things without me even thinking. I would land shots without even really knowing I was going to throw them, or even where I was going to throw them. I'd block and slide punches I never saw. After years and thousands of reps, your body just learns what to do, and gains a feel for it.

Landry was right, tannehill is a robot. He just doesn't have the ability of normal human athletic instincts.
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It actually seems that "not thinking" is the problem with Tannehill. When I watch the seconds tick by, I wonder how he could possibly not scan the field. It's like he has done this so many times that it's his nature. He's going through the motions, and the last thing his body is going to do is get up and move around on its own.

Some guys feel the footsteps and it can cause them to make mistakes. Not Tannehill. He is oblivious to the activity. Truly the opposite of Russell Wilson.
 
Seems to happen at least once every game, there is one consistent factor in it all and he's wearing number 17.
 
Very rarely do NFL QBs have a clean pocket. To avoid disasters in the backfield, the QBs take 3 step drops and get rid of the ball quickly (Patriots do this a lot with their average O-line). If you have a savvy QB, he will sense where the breakdown is coming from and will step to the left or right or will step up in the pocket to buy an extra second or 2. If there is no one open, they will recognize it early and run. At worst its a yd loss or no gain.
Supposedly Gase gave RT some drills in TC to improve his pocket awareness. Thus far, I haven't seen any improvement. In fact, he's looked worse this season and he is reminding me of David Carr and Rob Johnson.
On thursday night in the 1st half, they were running the ball with some effectiveness and RT wasn't really being pressure that much (no more than usual for an NFL QB). Yet, he couldn't move his team or convert on 3rd and short.
In the 2nd half when the Bengals extended their lead, the defense just pinned their ears back and came after RT, with no regard for the running game. That's when most of the pressure came. RT looked mentally whipped by the beginning of the 4th quarter and completely lost his confidence.
What I see in other QBs in the same position is they get antsy in the pocket and start to roll out or scramble for yards as soon as they feel pressure. RT just continues to take punishment and continues to do the same thing over and over.
 
No pocket presence... should have stepped in front of both pressures and found an open receiver or run for it
 
Tannehill played like butt, no defending it......but this play happened in the matter of a couple of seconds and there was no pocket to step up in climb up in to. If he steps up, he gets absolutely obliterated by the guy coming from his left!
 
He had an opportunity to step up and move right , ideally . That being said , blocking by the right tackle was crap as well . Point is .... Play wasn't executed mistake was made . Seems to be a trend with this team . It's only four games , next week will show if this team will trend up or if it'll be a disaster all year .
 
Lost me when you can clearly see his head or posture in the pocket does not change during the entire play. Until he realizes his body language dictates what the defense does we will continue going through the GROUND HOG DAY GAMES

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Two hands on the football. This one is on Tannehill. He certainly isn't the only one to blame on this play, but he needs to have two hands on that football when his pocket collapses around him like that.

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His progressions are to his left once he takes his head from the center of the field in his drop he doesnt have eyes behind his head...if he gets sacked there front side ok i get it but the routes to his left take time to develop...and if he does power step forward there will clark is waiting

I will put that one half on tannehill but its his blind side based on the progressions...most progression based qbs will at least try to get to their 2nd read post snap before they start getting happy feet

Is he flat footed there yeah id say so but not seeing backside wide pressure when your progreessions all start to the opposite side cant be a its all on the qb thing unless he got thru a couple progressions and just stood there...

Also im hearing people say why does he shift laterally at times into pressure once he finishes his drop...hes not shifting into pressure hes shifting to his intentions to give himself the most direct route to throw thru to the intended target

lateral shuffle steps to your intentions is something even the best muddy pocket handlers employ
 
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RT is locked down on the left side of the field the whole play. No sense of what is coming from his right side. He doesn't generally have good pocket presence. That said ...

Here's what I want to know. Was the HB supposed to go to the flat or help chip block for the Right Tackle? Was the pay designed for him to help with blocking but was screwed up by our RB by committee? RB counts off looking for block but doesnt see the pressure and need to help.
 
This is not his first game behind a ****ty line. Learn to use your body to move defenders or continue to get pummeled.

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