Tannehill Throwing Deep By Direction

[So Be]

Oh No, not another Tannehill throwing deep thread. :) This was prompted by an article I saw from Mondo, using PFF on player performance in 2014, and RT throwing deep pretty well to his right. Here's a closer look on throws over 20 yards in the air.

Right- he was 8 of 21 for 252 with 1 TD, a NFL rating of 99.7.
Middle- he was 4 of 14 for 78 with 1 TD, a NFL raring of 44.3.
Left- he was 4 of 8 for 148 with 1 TD, NFL rating of 56.7.

Receivers

Wallace- Right was 3 of 8 for 95, middle was 1 of 8 for 22, left was 2 0f 8 for 82 and TD.

Hartline- Right was I of 3 for35, middle was 0 of 2 with a drop. left was 1 of 3 for 33.

No other WR is worth mentioning.

Tight Ends

Clay- Right was 2 of 5 for 66, middle was 2 of 2 for 45, left was 1 of 1 for 13.

Sims- Right was 2 of 3 for 56 and a TD. left was 0 of 2 with a drop.

 

[russianbear]

Wallace - 25%

Everyone Else - 42%


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[mialuv13]

Man, Tannehill and Wallace clearly have chemistry issues on the deep ball. Lots of factors go into affecting this.

 

[So Be]

Clay catching 5 of 8 deep throws was surprising to me, even more so with him dealing with an injury, I definitely think we want to keep him.

 

[TheWalrus]

The left/right disparity is normal. Maybe not to this degree -- the sample sizes we're dealing with here are pretty small, it should be said -- but it's a normal thing to see. Every QB I've ever looked at is more accurate throwing to their right than to their left. It comes down to footwork. Much easier throwing open stance, not unlike how in tennis it's easier to hit a forehand because you have an open stance than a backhand, where your stance is closed. The disparity is a well known league trend and part of the reason most offenses are "right handed" in terms of the formations (it's also why the #1 receiver generally lines up to the right).

Fun fact: not being able to throw left -- like at all -- is what killed Rick Mirer's career. People forget but he actually had a superior rookie year to Drew Bledsoe. Bill Walsh had declared him the next Joe Montana (not the last time Walsh would humiliate himself with a similar statement). Eventually teams figured out Mirer was woefully inaccurate throwing left and they absolutely punished him with schemes and formation to take away throws to the right. It's one of the miracle trades in NFL history that the Seahawks were able to get a first rounder for him after three years. Anybody want to guess who the head coach of the team that traded for him was? J. David should know.

 

[fishfanmiami]

No stats to back it up but i would have thought the opposite. Seems like most of the missed connections deep he had were to Wallace on the right side especially two years ago. Last year Wallace moved around more and made a couple great TD grabs on the left side of the field including that one that was in the running for play of the year.

Just saw wally's post and that was what is frustrating to me. The deep throw to the right should be in Tannehill wheelhouse and it is not. Hoping another year with lazor will help.

What is Chicago for 200 Alex

 

[Fins1971]

Espn split stats only has him going 9 for 42 for 2 TD's on passes thrown over 21 yards. You got him going 16 for 43 on passes over 20 yards.

Something doesn't look right here. Is PFF counting actual completions or this just an accuracy opinion?

 

[So Be]

The left/right disparity is normal. Maybe not to this degree -- the sample sizes we're dealing with here are pretty small, it should be said -- but it's a normal thing to see. Every QB I've ever looked at is more accurate throwing to their right than to their left. It comes down to footwork. Much easier throwing open stance, not unlike how in tennis it's easier to hit a forehand because you have an open stance than a backhand, where your stance is closed. The disparity is a well known league trend and part of the reason most offenses are "right handed" in terms of the formations (it's also why the #1 receiver generally lines up to the right).

Fun fact: not being able to throw left -- like at all -- is what killed Rick Mirer's career. People forget but he actually had a superior rookie year to Drew Bledsoe. Bill Walsh had declared him the next Joe Montana (not the last time Walsh would humiliate himself with a similar statement). Eventually teams figured out Mirer was woefully inaccurate throwing left and they absolutely punished him with schemes and formation to take away throws to the right. It's one of the miracle trades in NFL history that the Seahawks were able to get a first rounder for him after three years. Anybody want to guess who the head coach of the team that traded for him was? J. David should know.

If you go back to 2013, RT was 7 of 33 to the right but, 7 of 19 to the left which is pretty good.

Wallace in 2013 was 5 of 26 to the right, and 0 for 1 on the left. As I recall, he wanted to stay on the right side and Sherman obliged.

 

[67Stang]

I think everything gets better, including with Wallace if he is given more time. Get the O-Line fixed!

 

[fishfanmiami]

If you go back to 2013, RT was 7 of 33 to the right but, 7 of 19 to the left which is pretty good.

Wallace in 2013 was 5 of 26 to the right, and 0 for 1 on the left. As I recall, he wanted to stay on the right side and Sherman obliged.

That was really bad. Ryan was off when throwing to the right side and Wallace did him no favors with his lack of effort.

 

[So Be]

Espn split stats only has him going 9 for 42 for 2 TD's on passes thrown over 21 yards. You got him going 16 for 43 on passes over 20 yards.

Something doesn't look right here. Is PFF counting actual completions or this just an accuracy opinion?

PFF actually has RT going 16 of 53 and 3 TD's but, I did not include other WR's. I believe ESPN is not including Clay and Sims production in going deep.

 

[So Be]

That was really bad. Ryan was off when throwing to the right side and Wallace did him no favors with his lack of effort.

And yet, he was pretty good going left, which should not happen. Ryan was a WR, and knows better than most young QB's where a receiver should be on his route. FWIW.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

Oooh... Oooh... Oooh...

****. Never mind.

 

[Sons Of Shula]

In before someone claims Wallace was well defended. This is how you attack the ball in the air. Not a prancing basket catch.

 

[spiketex]

I am a big fan of Ryan Tannehill. However, I don't think that he throws the deep ball well. Too often Wallace seems to be waiting for it to come down.
In contrast, I am not a fan of Geno Smith, but I think that he can throw a good deep ball (and he did it repeatedly in the last game of the season against us). Roethlisberger, Luck, Rodgers and Brees can all throw a great deep ball. Rodgers seems to be able to get it to land gently and accurately.
Tannehill is still developing as a QB. He has made steady improvement every year. But there is a good reason why Lazor rarely called the deep ball play. I think that it's because Tannehill isn't very good at it. There is more to being a good QB than just having a great deep ball.
Don't be too quick to blame Wallace, I think that Tannehill is more at fault (and Lazor knows it).