ckparrothead
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Hey guys I was just watching some tape tonight for teh heck of it and felt I'd share a few observations.
For those of you who have not seen this stuff, go to yahoo sports, the NFL section, visit each team and check out the video highlights of the players that teams drafted. They have so many, all you can ever want or need. Here are some observations.
1. Brandon Jacobs, RB (NY Giants 4th R) - The guy isn't all that fast, not all that agile, but he's going to be intimidating in the 3 to 5 yard range especially in the red zone. He's 6'4" and 256 pounds. The Giants have just found the REAL thunder to go with Tiki Barber's lightning. Ron Dayne is a fart in the wind compared to this guy. He's another Leroy Hoard.
2. Corey Webster, CB (NY Giants 2nd R) - On the Giants theme, I can see why Saban was so eager to make Webster his selection in the 2nd round to replace Pat Surtain. Even though he's listed at just 6'0" he plays really tall, really big, and lanky. Long arms, the guy can definitely cover the deep quarters of the field easy. He also really gets after guys in tackling and has superb ball awareness.
3. Ryan Moats, RB (Philadelphia 3rd R) - This will be a name to remember. I've heard scouts compare him favorably to Barry Sanders. That's quite a name to drop. Seeing the video, I see why. There is no RB in this draft with more active, distinct cutting ability than Ryan Moats. He, cuts, outruns people, he shows vision, cuts again, then again, and again...watching him run is like watching yourself play a game of Madden. Juke outside, outrun defender, juke inside, outrun defender, cut, juke, cut...it's not quite like the human joysticks, Barry Sanders and Dante Hall, but it's similar. Actually he kind of reminds me of Robert Smith, from what I remember of Smith. Westbrook is going to get injured (as always), and when he does watch out for Ryan Moats. Oh, btw his video isn't on yahoo. You have to go here: http://www.ryanmoatsfootball.com/RMoatsVideo.wmv
4. Stefan LeFors, QB (Carolina, 4th R) - I can't make up my mind about this guy. First I took pot shots at all the LeFors apostles because of his height, then I grew to start liking him, and now I see the video and I don't see anything exciting about him...at all. He slings a low ball and makes everything look like it was real difficult. He's jittery. A lot of his throws are very short. I don't think he's going to make it. You'll have to check back in on this thread in 5 years to see how close I am to the mark here.
5. Andrew Walter, QB (Oakland, 3rd R) - This guy is Brad Johnson incarnate. Inconsistency really has to be considered his biggest problem, aside from general awkwardness (like a long-legged squirrel). He throws wobbling ducks too often, real fat meatballs that look prime for the plucking in the NFL. But, when he settles down and tosses out the gunslinging 3/4 delivery (pusher, like Marino?), man can he zoom in a ball on a rope. Talk about a guy who could be good with the right coaching and system, he'll be perfect in Oakland tossing vertically to Randy Moss and Jerry Porter.
6. Roscoe Parrish, WR (Buffalo, 2nd R) - Being a huge hurricanes fan, I've already seen this dude play. I'm not sure I understand Buffalo fans' clamor over this guy. He's much more Jacquez Green than Santana Moss. Santana was an electric PLAYER, ball in hands, to the house. That was what it was like for him. Among Canes fans, Parrish has been an afterthought basically, and for good reason. While Santana had the electricity, Reggie Wayne had the sticky hands, and Andre Johnson had the beautiful physical package, Parrish just has speed. I mean, he's not completely untalented, you can't be completely untalented and play at The U, but don't envision him becoming some great #1 WR...or even a great #2. At best, he's Albert Connell or Alvin Harper. Flash in the pan, and then dust in the fireplace.
7. Kevin Everett, TE (Buffalo, 3rd R) - Following the Canes to Buffalo theme, I definitely agreed with Buffalo on the merits of this pick. Kevin Everett may not be Kellen Winslow Jr., but he does not miss the mark by as much as most people think. This guy reminds me of Shannon Sharpe without the ball in his hands, and Troy Drayton with the ball in his hands. Even though he's now a Bill, I hope for his sake he can stay healthy. He's going to be awesome if his injuries subside and he shows no ill effects. I can sit there and watch him all day do everything the great tight ends of the NFL do.
8. Brock Berlin, QB (Miami, UDFA) - Following the U theme, having just watched Berlin throwing to both Parrish and Everett in the highlight films, what jumps out at me is how so very much I do not like Brock Berlin. He's a bum. He'll never amount to anything in the NFL. Period.
9. Channing Crowder, LB (Miami, 3rd R) - He reminds me of LaVar Arrington in his stature and some of his style of play. But, something does fail to jump out at me on the film. I can't feel the power of this young man, not from the highlights that I've seen. He is very, very technically sound, however. And, he's got ball skills. And, he seems fast, and explosive, and seems to wrap up nicely. You can tell from the tape that he's a very smart player (scored 30+ on wonderlic too). But, the guy needs to develop more...power. Maybe I just need to see him play live. Reminds me of? The current Zach, funny as that is. Very technically sound, very smart...on the cusp of exhibiting true power on the field (think Takeo Spikes, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, LaVar Arrington power) but not quite there.
10. Ronnie Brown, RB (Miami, 1st R) - This guy has power, real power. His power and athleticism are the first things that jump off the page at you, and they continue to do so throughout his film. I love watching this guy run so fast that defenders can't make the angles work against him. This is especially true because with his size, defenders end up deceived by his speed. He doesn't have the decisive cut that you would like to see, but I love how springy he is on the field...his legs, they churn like he's not actually stepping on the ground but just scissor-kicking through the air wherever he damn well pleases. Then he looks to out-body defenders. I like him.
11. Matt Jones, WR (Jacksonville, 1st R) - Matt Jones is a man among boys, period. He will bytch the NFL into complete submission, and show that when you have the best size/speed combination the NFL has ever seen, you don't need a whole lot of experience at whatever position you end up playing in order to get to the pro bowl many many times. Mark me. If he stays healthy, he'll go to the pro bowl 3 times in his first 6 years as a pro.
12. Kyle Orton, QB (Chicago, 4th R) - Surprising athleticism. I was really down on him for a while. He didn't show up great at the senior bowl. He's a great overhand fastball thrower. Thrower is actually the best word that comes to mind with him...as opposed to Slinger. He aims, and shoots. His accuracy is much better when he's aiming for a spot on the field and using timing, but is off a lot when he's judging the runner and throwing to the runner rather than the spot (Kurt Warner is a great accurate spot thrower, not as accurate a moving target thrower). From the film, he seems like one of those guys that probably goes on hot and cold streaks. His film looks better than Walters or LeFors. I have to give him credit where credit is due. He could end up a pretty good pro.
13. Dan Cody, DE (Baltimore, 2nd R) - How could any team ignore Cody for that long? His mental problems have to be SEVERE to make him drop that far. If this dude isn't the next Dimitrius Underwood, I'm going to have to go on record saying the coaches made a mistake passing on Cody in favor of Roth. And trust me, I LOVE MATT ROTH. But, Dan Cody has it all. He's Jason Taylor to Matt Roth's Trace Armstrong. You can't win against Cody. He either blazes you to pieces on the outside rush, or if you manage to stay outside with him, he cuts inside on a dime and ends up in the QB's face anyway. Everything, from snap anticipation, first step, backside pursuit, speed, hand movement...everything is top notch. I originally evaluated this dude as the best DE in the draft. I am back on that bandwagon. He's the best DE in this draft, bar none.
14. Michael Boley, OLB (Atlanta, 5th R) - Looks really great in pursuit, but lacks the explosion you want in a tackler. Still, he looks great on blitzes, lanky and can get around blockers. What he lacks, is the ability to knock dudes flat on their butts consistently.
14. Derek Anderson, QB (Baltimore, 6th R) - Big tall lanky QB that throws high accurate m00nballz down the field. Ball doesn't come out pretty sometimes, and nobody is going to accuse him of having his passes come out on a rope, but he also shows some real poise and being a real gamer. Guy could be a good pro.
WHO WERE THOSE MASKED MEN?
1. Zach Miller, TE Arizona State - Watching highlights of Andrew Walter is like the Zach Miller show. This guy is beastly. A real knack for making plays. And, was he actually just a true freshman when he made all those plays???? Keep an eye on this guy. He's 6'4" and eventually will make a great pro. Very Shockey-like.
2. Mike Hass, WR Oregon State - The Derek Anderson highlight tape became the Mike Hass show basically. Hass is 6'1" but he doesn't look it. He looks like a Wayne Chrebet out there. He's awesome. His deep skills, ball adjustment, and hands are really quite incredible. He's a 4th year senior this upcoming season and will probably look to enter the NFL draft next year. Keep an eye on this dude too. He looked fast. If he times as fast as he looks on tape, at 6'1" with those kinds of hands, he should go high. I guess I could be way off but this guy really looked great.
For those of you who have not seen this stuff, go to yahoo sports, the NFL section, visit each team and check out the video highlights of the players that teams drafted. They have so many, all you can ever want or need. Here are some observations.
1. Brandon Jacobs, RB (NY Giants 4th R) - The guy isn't all that fast, not all that agile, but he's going to be intimidating in the 3 to 5 yard range especially in the red zone. He's 6'4" and 256 pounds. The Giants have just found the REAL thunder to go with Tiki Barber's lightning. Ron Dayne is a fart in the wind compared to this guy. He's another Leroy Hoard.
2. Corey Webster, CB (NY Giants 2nd R) - On the Giants theme, I can see why Saban was so eager to make Webster his selection in the 2nd round to replace Pat Surtain. Even though he's listed at just 6'0" he plays really tall, really big, and lanky. Long arms, the guy can definitely cover the deep quarters of the field easy. He also really gets after guys in tackling and has superb ball awareness.
3. Ryan Moats, RB (Philadelphia 3rd R) - This will be a name to remember. I've heard scouts compare him favorably to Barry Sanders. That's quite a name to drop. Seeing the video, I see why. There is no RB in this draft with more active, distinct cutting ability than Ryan Moats. He, cuts, outruns people, he shows vision, cuts again, then again, and again...watching him run is like watching yourself play a game of Madden. Juke outside, outrun defender, juke inside, outrun defender, cut, juke, cut...it's not quite like the human joysticks, Barry Sanders and Dante Hall, but it's similar. Actually he kind of reminds me of Robert Smith, from what I remember of Smith. Westbrook is going to get injured (as always), and when he does watch out for Ryan Moats. Oh, btw his video isn't on yahoo. You have to go here: http://www.ryanmoatsfootball.com/RMoatsVideo.wmv
4. Stefan LeFors, QB (Carolina, 4th R) - I can't make up my mind about this guy. First I took pot shots at all the LeFors apostles because of his height, then I grew to start liking him, and now I see the video and I don't see anything exciting about him...at all. He slings a low ball and makes everything look like it was real difficult. He's jittery. A lot of his throws are very short. I don't think he's going to make it. You'll have to check back in on this thread in 5 years to see how close I am to the mark here.
5. Andrew Walter, QB (Oakland, 3rd R) - This guy is Brad Johnson incarnate. Inconsistency really has to be considered his biggest problem, aside from general awkwardness (like a long-legged squirrel). He throws wobbling ducks too often, real fat meatballs that look prime for the plucking in the NFL. But, when he settles down and tosses out the gunslinging 3/4 delivery (pusher, like Marino?), man can he zoom in a ball on a rope. Talk about a guy who could be good with the right coaching and system, he'll be perfect in Oakland tossing vertically to Randy Moss and Jerry Porter.
6. Roscoe Parrish, WR (Buffalo, 2nd R) - Being a huge hurricanes fan, I've already seen this dude play. I'm not sure I understand Buffalo fans' clamor over this guy. He's much more Jacquez Green than Santana Moss. Santana was an electric PLAYER, ball in hands, to the house. That was what it was like for him. Among Canes fans, Parrish has been an afterthought basically, and for good reason. While Santana had the electricity, Reggie Wayne had the sticky hands, and Andre Johnson had the beautiful physical package, Parrish just has speed. I mean, he's not completely untalented, you can't be completely untalented and play at The U, but don't envision him becoming some great #1 WR...or even a great #2. At best, he's Albert Connell or Alvin Harper. Flash in the pan, and then dust in the fireplace.
7. Kevin Everett, TE (Buffalo, 3rd R) - Following the Canes to Buffalo theme, I definitely agreed with Buffalo on the merits of this pick. Kevin Everett may not be Kellen Winslow Jr., but he does not miss the mark by as much as most people think. This guy reminds me of Shannon Sharpe without the ball in his hands, and Troy Drayton with the ball in his hands. Even though he's now a Bill, I hope for his sake he can stay healthy. He's going to be awesome if his injuries subside and he shows no ill effects. I can sit there and watch him all day do everything the great tight ends of the NFL do.
8. Brock Berlin, QB (Miami, UDFA) - Following the U theme, having just watched Berlin throwing to both Parrish and Everett in the highlight films, what jumps out at me is how so very much I do not like Brock Berlin. He's a bum. He'll never amount to anything in the NFL. Period.
9. Channing Crowder, LB (Miami, 3rd R) - He reminds me of LaVar Arrington in his stature and some of his style of play. But, something does fail to jump out at me on the film. I can't feel the power of this young man, not from the highlights that I've seen. He is very, very technically sound, however. And, he's got ball skills. And, he seems fast, and explosive, and seems to wrap up nicely. You can tell from the tape that he's a very smart player (scored 30+ on wonderlic too). But, the guy needs to develop more...power. Maybe I just need to see him play live. Reminds me of? The current Zach, funny as that is. Very technically sound, very smart...on the cusp of exhibiting true power on the field (think Takeo Spikes, Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, LaVar Arrington power) but not quite there.
10. Ronnie Brown, RB (Miami, 1st R) - This guy has power, real power. His power and athleticism are the first things that jump off the page at you, and they continue to do so throughout his film. I love watching this guy run so fast that defenders can't make the angles work against him. This is especially true because with his size, defenders end up deceived by his speed. He doesn't have the decisive cut that you would like to see, but I love how springy he is on the field...his legs, they churn like he's not actually stepping on the ground but just scissor-kicking through the air wherever he damn well pleases. Then he looks to out-body defenders. I like him.
11. Matt Jones, WR (Jacksonville, 1st R) - Matt Jones is a man among boys, period. He will bytch the NFL into complete submission, and show that when you have the best size/speed combination the NFL has ever seen, you don't need a whole lot of experience at whatever position you end up playing in order to get to the pro bowl many many times. Mark me. If he stays healthy, he'll go to the pro bowl 3 times in his first 6 years as a pro.
12. Kyle Orton, QB (Chicago, 4th R) - Surprising athleticism. I was really down on him for a while. He didn't show up great at the senior bowl. He's a great overhand fastball thrower. Thrower is actually the best word that comes to mind with him...as opposed to Slinger. He aims, and shoots. His accuracy is much better when he's aiming for a spot on the field and using timing, but is off a lot when he's judging the runner and throwing to the runner rather than the spot (Kurt Warner is a great accurate spot thrower, not as accurate a moving target thrower). From the film, he seems like one of those guys that probably goes on hot and cold streaks. His film looks better than Walters or LeFors. I have to give him credit where credit is due. He could end up a pretty good pro.
13. Dan Cody, DE (Baltimore, 2nd R) - How could any team ignore Cody for that long? His mental problems have to be SEVERE to make him drop that far. If this dude isn't the next Dimitrius Underwood, I'm going to have to go on record saying the coaches made a mistake passing on Cody in favor of Roth. And trust me, I LOVE MATT ROTH. But, Dan Cody has it all. He's Jason Taylor to Matt Roth's Trace Armstrong. You can't win against Cody. He either blazes you to pieces on the outside rush, or if you manage to stay outside with him, he cuts inside on a dime and ends up in the QB's face anyway. Everything, from snap anticipation, first step, backside pursuit, speed, hand movement...everything is top notch. I originally evaluated this dude as the best DE in the draft. I am back on that bandwagon. He's the best DE in this draft, bar none.
14. Michael Boley, OLB (Atlanta, 5th R) - Looks really great in pursuit, but lacks the explosion you want in a tackler. Still, he looks great on blitzes, lanky and can get around blockers. What he lacks, is the ability to knock dudes flat on their butts consistently.
14. Derek Anderson, QB (Baltimore, 6th R) - Big tall lanky QB that throws high accurate m00nballz down the field. Ball doesn't come out pretty sometimes, and nobody is going to accuse him of having his passes come out on a rope, but he also shows some real poise and being a real gamer. Guy could be a good pro.
WHO WERE THOSE MASKED MEN?
1. Zach Miller, TE Arizona State - Watching highlights of Andrew Walter is like the Zach Miller show. This guy is beastly. A real knack for making plays. And, was he actually just a true freshman when he made all those plays???? Keep an eye on this guy. He's 6'4" and eventually will make a great pro. Very Shockey-like.
2. Mike Hass, WR Oregon State - The Derek Anderson highlight tape became the Mike Hass show basically. Hass is 6'1" but he doesn't look it. He looks like a Wayne Chrebet out there. He's awesome. His deep skills, ball adjustment, and hands are really quite incredible. He's a 4th year senior this upcoming season and will probably look to enter the NFL draft next year. Keep an eye on this dude too. He looked fast. If he times as fast as he looks on tape, at 6'1" with those kinds of hands, he should go high. I guess I could be way off but this guy really looked great.
