the 7 players i would draft over Jake Long

[thefranchisedef]

1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Darren McFadden
4. Vernon Gholston
5. Chris Williams
6. Sedrick Ellis
7. Cromartie-Rogers

- The more I watch video game tape the more I see Jake Long getting pushed back, and over powered. He is off balanced, and guys like adalius Thomas and Ray Lewis will murder him 2 out of 4 downs. He is weight room strong, and when attacked straight on seems to get kind of scared. Will end up being a Left guard in 3 years.

 

[FinFanatic80]

No way McFadden or Williams

and its Rogers-Cromartie

 

[PerfectTeam]

1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Darren McFadden
4. Vernon Gholston
5. Chris Williams
6. Sedrick Ellis
7. Cromartie-Rogers

- The more I watch video game tape the more I see Jake Long getting pushed back, and over powered. He is off balanced, and guys like adalius Thomas and Ray Lewis will murder him 2 out of 4 downs. He is weight room strong, and when attacked straight on seems to get kind of scared. Will end up being a Left guard in 3 years.

I agree on the points you have about Long. If you look at the Ohio State game, you saw Cam Heyward getting good leverage and over powering him at times.

The only two people however I would take over him at one are chris long and glenn dorsey. The rest have to many questions.

McFadden to me is not a complete running back. Alot of his big runs were to the outside and I question his inside running ability. He also lacks the lower body power and bulk to break tackles.

Vernon Gholston disappears to often on film. I see a questionable motor and instincts. I also see a guy that is to stiff in his hips to play standing up well.

Chris Williams to me I like better as a LT prospect but is he worth of number one? No, I dont think so. He lacks strength and isnt overly dominating.

Sedrick Ellis I like, but he isnt as versatile as Dorsey is to me.

DRC I dont see how you could place that highly. He comes from a small school. He is fairly thin. He needs to do a better job with the run support.

 

[FinFrenzy]

Why do you think BP is offering a contract to Gholston over C. Long?

Is it for fear of lack of production by converting C. Long to an OLB??

 

[thefranchisedef]

Drc I like a lot because of his dominate coverage skills! You can teach power and that what help Chris Williams. At least he has great balance and line vision. Jake long comes from a big school and I believe may be overhyped! We will see if I'm right..

 

[PerfectTeam]

Drc I like a lot because of his dominate coverage skills! You can teach power and that what help Chris Williams. At least he has great balance and line vision. Jake long comes from a big school and I believe may be overhyped! We will see if I'm right..

DRC does have good cover skills but tell me who he covered in college? Its a jump up in competition and playing speed. Its hard to justify him number one.

You can get Chris Williams into the weight room, but can he handle the extra weight while not losing the agility he had. Those are my questions about Williams. He is going to have trouble run blocking the moment he steps on an NFL field.

 

[PerfectTeam]

Why do you think BP is offering a contract to Gholston over C. Long?

Is it for fear of lack of production by converting C. Long to an OLB??

I dont know to be honest. Chris Long tests out athletically as well as Gholston. BP and JI must think the ceiling on Gholston is really high compared to Chris Long, but thats just crazy to me. Im thinking its a smoke screen to be honest. I think they are going to come up with numbers and go back to Longs agent and say here is what the others are willing to sign for, will you sign for this much? Otherwise I think they are making a mistake with Gholston. I like Gholston, I think he will be a good player but he isnt the best player on the board.

 

[Dfan06]

1. Glenn Dorsey
2. Chris Long
3. Darren McFadden
4. Vernon Gholston
5. Chris Williams
6. Sedrick Ellis
7. Cromartie-Rogers

- The more I watch video game tape the more I see Jake Long getting pushed back, and over powered. He is off balanced, and guys like adalius Thomas and Ray Lewis will murder him 2 out of 4 downs. He is weight room strong, and when attacked straight on seems to get kind of scared. Will end up being a Left guard in 3 years.

he only allowed one freaking sack! who cares if he is getting push back, as long he doesn't let the Qb get hit! no offense but I am sure you're the same person who is going to complain how beck sucks when he has no phreaking time to get the ball. Chris Williams would be a huge reach! he played at Vanderbilt! Moving Chris Long to full time OLB is a huge risk!

 

[PerfectTeam]

he only allowed one freaking sack! who cares if he is getting push back, as long he doesn't let the Qb get hit! no offense but I am sure you're the same person who is going to complain how beck sucks when he has no phreaking time to get the ball. Chris Williams would be a huge reach! he played at Vanderbilt! Moving Chris Long to full time OLB is a huge risk!

Well you know pressure is almost as bad as the sack itself. It disrupts the plays timing. Eventually pressures lead to sacks as well.

 

[MustangFinFan]

i would take Brendan Albert over any of these guys, lol. idk why this guy isnt a #1 prospect, I mean he is by far the best GUARD in NCAA, and if you convert him to tackle I can see him being one of the best. whoever gets him, is gonna have a mauler on their line.

 

[fishypete]

I think a few fans are going to be sad on draft day....but thats O.K....Life will go on.

 

[fishypete]

i would take Brendan Albert over any of these guys, lol. idk why this guy isnt a #1 prospect, I mean he is by far the best GUARD in NCAA, and if you convert him to tackle I can see him being one of the best. whoever gets him, is gonna have a mauler on their line.

You don't draft a guard with the first pick, in the draft.

In the history of the draft...only one guard has been taken first...in 1961...by the Buffalo Bills...


http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/alltimeno1

 

[TimeGap]

i'm hoping for a trade down with KC so we can grab Albert or Ghoulston.

 

[BlueFin]

i would take Brendan Albert over any of these guys, lol. idk why this guy isnt a #1 prospect, I mean he is by far the best GUARD in NCAA, and if you convert him to tackle I can see him being one of the best. whoever gets him, is gonna have a mauler on their line.

He has moved up dramatically on many boards, I've seen him go as high as 5 on a reputable board, Scouts Inc. (ESPN), so is it such a stretch?

What if none of the top 4 take our deal, would the tuna consider Branden Albert at #1 overall if he takes the lower contract?

I know this is doubtful, perhaps crazy, unlikely, whatever you want to call it, but it wouldn't be the first time somebody shot up the draft boards late, and in light of Parcells desire to get a deal done on the cheap, is it impossible?

 

[fishypete]

He has moved up dramatically on many boards, I've seen him go as high as 5 on a reputable board, Scouts Inc. (ESPN), so is it such a stretch?

What if none of the top 4 take our deal, would the tuna consider Branden Albert at #1 overall if he takes the lower contract?

I know this is doubtful, perhaps crazy, unlikely, whatever you want to call it, but it wouldn't be the first time somebody shot up the draft boards late, and in light of Parcells desire to get a deal done on the cheap, is it impossible?

Blue...I understand what you mean...but on the other hand...why stop at Guard....would the Dolphins also select the best corner...the best TE...the best linebacker...if the top 4 players didn't agree? I'm always alittle weary of players who leap up from a second round grade to a possible top 5 pick. Albert is a good player...but great players don't give up 5.5 sacks in 11-12 games...and against questionable teams he faced in the acc.