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The best pick or the right pick??

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CC and RM have obviously decided that Brady Quinn doesn't have the required quality to make it as this team's 15 year franchise QB, picking Ginn over him is about as clear a signal as you'll ever hear. Though I don't agree with them and believe that Brady will eventually be a top 5 QB for 10+ years in Cleveland, the thing I'm more worried about is if they believe John Beck is this team's 15 year frachise QB...

If they do, then I'm very pleased with the way the early stages of this draft panned out. I mean, we got the second best QB (Beck over Quinn and Kolb)in their opinion and the second best WR on the board without trading up or losing any picks. I don't know anywhere near enough about John Beck to pass opinion on whether this is a realistic standpoint or not. I guess though that they are forgetting about numbers, stats, popularity and the number of times a guy's eyes glint whilst being interviewed. CC and I'd imagine, given his history, Terry Shea must have looked long and hard at throwing technique, scrambling technique, and these guy's mindsets in determining which was the best. To put it simply, other than Jamarcus Russel, John Beck came out on top.

If they don't, then why the hell are the wasting a 2nd round pick on a QB that doesn't have the ability to become the QB that we need. It was stated a long time before the draft that we'd look at QB. I believe that QB was the right position to draft with our first rounder, as long as it was JR or BQ, however that happened. If they looked at Quinn and said, "You know what, he's overhyped, over-rated and not good enough to lead a team in the NFL" and therefore, picked the next best one, they;ve made an error. The Miami Dolphins need a 15 year franchise QB, if that isn't Quinn, fine. But if it isn't Beck, we'd have been better off waiting that little bit longer.
 
If Beck is a 15-year franchise QB, then he'll be playing when he is 41...we're approaching Julio Franco territory with that one.
 
If Beck is a 15-year franchise QB, then he'll be playing when he is 41...we're approaching Julio Franco territory with that one.


Well, if he does reach that so called territory, that will mean that he had one heck of a career, and Miami had a very hard time trying to replace him....That would make me pretty darn happy :)
 
Well, if he does reach that so called territory, that will mean that he had one heck of a career, and Miami had a very hard time trying to replace him....That would make me pretty darn happy :)



hmmmmm. not being able to replace a QB.......

that sounds like the Dolphins to me.
 
I hate to be the one to mention it, but I think John Beck is not going to be "our MAN" I know I know the jury is out and it's WAY to early predict what will happen but Seeing the way that Bill Parcells and Ireland and now Coach Sparano have been talking and setting this team up. Sounds like they WANT to build a team FAST and get it turned around quickly.

When the man person on the team is your QB, I'm not sure Bill or company will tolerate the learning curb for 4 years (I might be wrong) I think he will go after a Derek Anderson or another Journeyman QB and groom Beck or Matt Ryan..

Just looking at the demeanor of a QB John Beck does not seem to fit the mold for this "YOUS GUYS (NJ slang)" office..

ROMO is a in your face, type QB and fit Bill and Sparano's style.. John Beck is laid back and "timmid" type of personality, and I'm not sure players will respond to his lack of emotion ala Cam Cameron..

I hope Beck gets his shot to win the Job in training camp and he proves me wrong..

But beck will be a 7-10 year QB at best but in this league that is pretty good.
 
I hate to be the one to mention it, but I think John Beck is not going to be "our MAN" I know I know the jury is out and it's WAY to early predict what will happen but Seeing the way that Bill Parcells and Ireland and now Coach Sparano have been talking and setting this team up. Sounds like they WANT to build a team FAST and get it turned around quickly.

When the man person on the team is your QB, I'm not sure Bill or company will tolerate the learning curb for 4 years (I might be wrong) I think he will go after a Derek Anderson or another Journeyman QB and groom Beck or Matt Ryan..

Just looking at the demeanor of a QB John Beck does not seem to fit the mold for this "YOUS GUYS (NJ slang)" office..

ROMO is a in your face, type QB and fit Bill and Sparano's style.. John Beck is laid back and "timmid" type of personality, and I'm not sure players will respond to his lack of emotion ala Cam Cameron..

I hope Beck gets his shot to win the Job in training camp and he proves me wrong..

But beck will be a 7-10 year QB at best but in this league that is pretty good.

finally some who knwos what they r talking about..ofcourse beck is not our guy..he is a career backup...the signs are there already that the phins want to draft a qb...u dont do that unless you think you have a true 1 on the roster..im sure beck will be given a chance but i wouldnt hold my breath the beck lovefest will come to a end soon as soon as the tuna draft us 1 or we sign 1 thru free agencey...how bad must he play for most of u to realize he is nothing more then a career backup......cleo lemo played better then him and thats not saying much
 
finally some who knwos what they r talking about..ofcourse beck is not our guy..he is a career backup...the signs are there already that the phins want to draft a qb...u dont do that unless you think you have a true 1 on the roster..im sure beck will be given a chance but i wouldnt hold my breath the beck lovefest will come to a end soon as soon as the tuna draft us 1 or we sign 1 thru free agencey...how bad must he play for most of u to realize he is nothing more then a career backup......cleo lemo played better then him and thats not saying much

I will say it again. How in the hell do you evaluate a rookie QB on a 1-15 football team. There is no way you can gauge the type of QB that Beck will be from what we saw this year. If you are willing to do that then you don't know a damn thing about football. Very rarely do rookie QB's succeed immediately especially in the situation that Beck was faced with this season. Oh I get it you are one of those impatient I have to have everything right now kind of fans huh? If The players don't come out there first season and turn into Pro Bowlers you give up huh? This is the kind of logic that makes my already bad mood go through the roof. As far as drafting a QB maybe it will happen but for you to come on here and say that it has been stated by Parcells and Ireland is completely false and if I'm wrong then please provide a link to prove me wrong because I have seen zero documented verification just here say and speculation!
 
First of all is anyone convinced that any of the QB's available in this years draft are SIGNIFICANTLY ahead of Beck in the draft? Brohm, Ryan, Woodson??? We have NEEDS ALL OVER THE FIELD. If Parcell's deems that Beck is not the guy then be sure he will address it the best he can in free agency... Dorsey or Long (Jake or Chris) are far better bets as immediate impact players than any of the QB's available and let's face it Parcells and co. have a free pass on this one cuz Beck was not their mistake.
 
Looks to me we will be bringing in yet another QB Vet in 08. Beck does appear to be backup material after last season at this point "but" Ireland did say he thought highly of Beck in last years draft which is promising. I hope Beck and Lemon both are back next year as I beleive it gives us the best shot at winning at least in the short term.
 
I will say it again. How in the hell do you evaluate a rookie QB on a 1-15 football team. There is no way you can gauge the type of QB that Beck will be from what we saw this year. If you are willing to do that then you don't know a damn thing about football. Very rarely do rookie QB's succeed immediately especially in the situation that Beck was faced with this season. Oh I get it you are one of those impatient I have to have everything right now kind of fans huh? If The players don't come out there first season and turn into Pro Bowlers you give up huh? This is the kind of logic that makes my already bad mood go through the roof. As far as drafting a QB maybe it will happen but for you to come on here and say that it has been stated by Parcells and Ireland is completely false and if I'm wrong then please provide a link to prove me wrong because I have seen zero documented verification just here say and speculation!


i have read on a few sites that they love ryan...and that they r gonna take a look at trading some chris simms...that should be enough for you....
 
finally some who knwos what they r talking about..ofcourse beck is not our guy..he is a career backup...the signs are there already that the phins want to draft a qb...u dont do that unless you think you have a true 1 on the roster..im sure beck will be given a chance but i wouldnt hold my breath the beck lovefest will come to a end soon as soon as the tuna draft us 1 or we sign 1 thru free agencey...how bad must he play for most of u to realize he is nothing more then a career backup......cleo lemo played better then him and thats not saying much

Dude...the kid's a rookie, give him a chance before we start talking about him not being our guy. He played on the worse team in the NFL by the way.
 
i have read on a few sites that they love ryan...and that they r gonna take a look at trading some chris simms...that should be enough for you....

What are you Hannibal Lector or something?
 
Looks to me we will be bringing in yet another QB Vet in 08. Beck does appear to be backup material after last season at this point "but" Ireland did say he thought highly of Beck in last years draft which is promising. I hope Beck and Lemon both are back next year as I beleive it gives us the best shot at winning at least in the short term.

Mis -quote..., now enter "adam4prez"....:D
 
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