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The case for Derrick Brown

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With all the QB talk taking over the forum as of late, I thought it would be fun to propose a different argument. Let's say we actually do believe QB is not as pressing an issue than speculated. Taking the best player at 5 might be Derrick Brown. 6'4, 320lb monster DT that we add to the trenches to go along with Wilkins and GodX. You could argue that he would be our best passrusher, given the fact we use our lbs more in coverage

Per Nfl.com:


Overview
Defensive tackle with rare combination of size and disruptive traits who frequently bludgeoned inferior competition across from him. Brown's snap quickness allows him to take muddy running lanes by re-setting the line of scrimmage. He has the ability to power into gaps, but he really shines when he drops his anchor to stall double-teams or punch, press and prey on runners as a two-gapper. Brown's upright rush style means he might be more of a pressure rusher than a sack-man, but he should keep improving as a rusher with more dedication to the craft. He could become a high-impact starter early in his career with an All-Pro ceiling and good starter floor.
Strengths
Elite combination of size, strength and big-man athleticism
Able to play up and down the line in odd or even fronts
Competes with urgency and determination
Instant snap reaction propels him into blocker's frame with pop
Quickness and power to ruin a reach block
Uses upper body power and hands to lift and leverage blockers consistently
Quick punch and lock-out forces blockers into early recovery mode
Linebacker's best friend with ability to gobble up blockers
Two-tapper deluxe with power and shed technique to control point of attack
Agility to widen tackle radius from initial gap
Capable of cranking up a rush crafted around movement and power
Powerful club move interrupts punch and balance of opponent
Able to drive through redirection from inside pocket
Weaknesses
Average knee bend creates inconsistent pad level
Doesn't have upfield stride quickness for playing in gaps
Plays past his toes, creating imbalance against offensive-line movement
Needs to keep working on syncing hands and feet as rusher
Can get to half-man more quickly with his rush attack
Hip tightness limits rush agility in the pocket



Thoughts?
 
I mean, yeah, you could make a similar thread about Jeff Okudah, or Jedrick Wills, or Isiah Simmons. But the reality is that QB is more important and an area of need, and we only have one top 7 pick. So basically this is just a 'Derrick Brown is great' thread, which is not wrong.
 
If you don't have one, YOU ALWAYS TAKE THE QB....no shock value there. & I love Derrick Brown.
 
If Miami decided to go in another direction at quarterback, Brown could be a great choice.

I doubt it happens, but say the team decides to sign Bridgewater or trade for Newton. In that scenario, Brown could be their top target.

I expect the team will move up and get Tua.
 
I’d rather grab a QB then take the TCU kid later in Round 1. That would be better value to me. I really like Kinlaw as well but expect him to be gone by the mid teens.

You can’t pass up a young franchise QB when drafting top 5 if you think one is there. We’ve had enough failed QB experiments to understand how important that position is.
 
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Beast. Among the most talented defensive players to come out of college football in the past few years. Also a great student athlete. Business student that earned his degree and was on the SEC Academic Honor Roll. He's also a tremendous father to his child. He's been a leader and an example to other student athletes.

He's a grown man that gets it. There's a lot of 24 year old millionaires in the NFL, but not a lot of grown men. Derrick Brown is a grown man that has his priorities in order.

He'll be a tremendous pick for whoever selects him. However, you can accumulate 25 of these great players like this but you're just pissing in the wind until you solve the quarterback position long term with the best one you can get. Any notion that quarterback isn't Miami's most pressing issue is whistling past the graveyard.
 
Pachyderm_Wave said:
Beast. Among the most talented defensive players to come out of college football in the past few years. Also a great student athlete. Business student that earned his degree and was on the SEC Academic Honor Roll. He's also a tremendous father to his child. He's been a leader and an example to other student athletes.

He's a grown man that gets it. There's a lot of 24 year old millionaires in the NFL, but not a lot of grown men. Derrick Brown is a grown man that has his priorities in order.

He'll be a tremendous pick for whoever selects him. However, you can accumulate 25 of these great players like this but you're just pissing in the wind until you solve the quarterback position long term with the best one you can get. Any notion that quarterback isn't Miami's most pressing issue is whistling past the graveyard.
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Well said. I've never heard the term whistling past the graveyard, but I like it!

Agree, Miami has to get the quarterback and nail that position down once and for all. The team could have some interesting trade up options besides quarterback. If Thomas starts getting close to the #18 selection, he could be a target. I doubt Brown falls out of the top 10, but if four quarterbacks go there will be some unexpected talent dropping.

The Dolphins have the picks to target and get players they want.
 
If Miami does not like the QB options at 5 then by all means take a guy like Brown or Simmons or Kinlaw.

I do not care how big the need is at QB you don't take one just to take one.

Nowhere is it written that Miami MUST come out of the 1st Round(or this Draft)with their QB of the future.It would be nice but there are other ways to skin the proverbial cat..................although I do not know who was skinning cats regularly back in the day.
 
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If Miami does not like the QB options at 5 then by all means take a guy like Brown or Simmons or Kinlaw.

I do not care how big the need is at QB you don't take one just to take one.

Nowhere is it written that Miami MUST come out of the 1st Round(or this Draft)with their QB of the future.It would be nice but there are other ways to skin the proverbial cat..................although I do not know who was skinning cats regularly back in the day.
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I agree you don't take a quarterback just to take one. You have to have a strong conviction. I would love to know how many quarterbacks Miami thinks they can win big with from this draft. Maybe it's just Burrow and Tua in the minds of the decision makers for the Dolphins. Maybe it extends to Herbert. Maybe it includes Herbert and Love.

Do the powers that be think there's a big difference between the perceived top two of Burrow and Tua? The only way we find that out is on draft day. If the Dolphins trade up for Tua or Burrow then that means they think the gap between those two and the next quarterback is significant enough. If Miami stays put at #5 then we have to assume they feel strongly enough about four quarterbacks.

I do think Miami likes the quarterback options in this draft. Simply put, you can't win big in this league without a top quarterback. You just don't see that happening.
 
Before we can even start talking about drafting any other position, you better know that Burrow and Tua are gone. And then if they're gone you better have a good answer for when we ask you why didn't you get one of them??
 
I prefer this name among the non-quarterback options. Unfortunately the Dolphins mostly settled for Wilkins last year so they are probably using that as a check mark.

Brown would collapse and wreck numerous plays per game. That doesn't begin to resemble the impact of a quarterback.

The chess piece stuff really doesn't interest me any more. I think that Steelers/Dolphins really opened my eyes because sitting much higher than I ever had before it really put a dramatic perspective on so many evolving plays that were available if only Fitzpatrick had the instincts and touch to look for them, instead of head down and only seeing smack in front of him. We need a quarterback with every color on the rainbow.
 
I have always loved DL and feel you can't have enough of them.

Jimmy G got a lot of credit for SF this year but it was their loaded DL(and strong OL too)that was the real reason they were so good.

I like Brown but am becoming enamored with Kinlaw. He is that explosive guy in the middle that really messes up an offense.

IF they can't or won't move up and miss out on Tua I say take DL at 5 and then target Love or Hebert by trading up from 18.

I would be happy with Brown or Kinlaw at 5, even Simmons or their favorite OT if they don't go QB.
 
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