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Just an FYI to all those who use terms such as there are "no moral victories" in the nfl.... Stfu... Unless you're a coach this phrase is ridiculous... Idiots like Omar keep using this type of talk to sound knowledgable but in reality has no ****ing clue... It's as ridiculous as Omar saying Tanne isn't clutch because of the Hail Mary intersection at the end of the game....Coaches assess and know where their team stands beyond wins or losses and if they can match up with teams well, or can't.... Gase and his staff are gathering and assessing that information right now... You can say there are no moral victories, but you can't tell me the staff wasn't somewhat pleased with the D in Seattle (for the most part) or the O's performance in the 2nd half yesterday...
 
gfish24 said:
Just an FYI to all those who use terms such as there are "no moral victories" in the nfl.... Stfu... Unless you're a coach this phrase is ridiculous... Idiots like Omar keep using this type of talk to sound knowledgable but in reality has no ****ing clue... It's as ridiculous as Omar saying Tanne isn't clutch because of the Hail Mary intersection at the end of the game....Coaches assess and know where their team stands beyond wins or losses and if they can match up with teams well, or can't.... Gase and his staff are gathering and assessing that information right now... You can say there are no moral victories, but you can't tell me the staff wasn't somewhat pleased with the D in Seattle (for the most part) or the O's performance in the 2nd half yesterday...
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EXACTLY!! Saying there are no moral victories means there's no building blocks, there's no learning from the experience! I'm sure the coaching staff realizes this isn't a playoff team, so every game, win or lose, is a step towards building a better team. It will not happen from game to game.

It's funny, but some people bitching about how horrible we are, are the ones that also predicted a sub-par record. Why are you upset, then?! You know we dont have the all around talent yet?! lol
 
You win or you lose. I don't give a **** how it happens. It just happens that Miami tends to lose close games and that's nothing new.

Saying you can take good things from a loss, when you're consistently a mediocre football team, is like saying everybody should get participation trophies at the end of the season.

If you can take good things then get ****ing better. Don't follow up a solid defensive performance with a ****ty one, and don't follow a slow start on offense with another slow start on offense.
 
Im upset about going down 21 by a backup qb in one half. I think.we had like 3 yards so we're not stacking any blocks. My hope is that we will start to grow, hopefully this week but so far ng.
 
You are judged on your win loss record. Sorry you don't like the term "moral
Victory" either do I. I prefer to call it a loss, a failure.
You say gase is scheming right now, well
I hope so that's his job. He and Vance Joseph may have forgotten to
Do so last week, every jackass that ever watched a
Pats game
Knew he shirt passing game was coming, exceot our staff
 
How many moral victories gets you into the playoffs?
 
gfish24 said:
Just an FYI to all those who use terms such as there are "no moral victories" in the nfl.... Stfu... Unless you're a coach this phrase is ridiculous... Idiots like Omar keep using this type of talk to sound knowledgable but in reality has no ****ing clue... It's as ridiculous as Omar saying Tanne isn't clutch because of the Hail Mary intersection at the end of the game....Coaches assess and know where their team stands beyond wins or losses and if they can match up with teams well, or can't.... Gase and his staff are gathering and assessing that information right now... You can say there are no moral victories, but you can't tell me the staff wasn't somewhat pleased with the D in Seattle (for the most part) or the O's performance in the 2nd half yesterday...
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And Gase would be a loser if he and his staff is talking about what they liked in Seattle instead of fixing what is wrong...Todd Bowles said something interesting last week when the jets lost to Cincy, they asked him who were some of the guys who played well and he said no one plays well when you lose.......think about it what he said.....you have to have that mentality at this level, losing sucks and it must hurt and you don't ever want it to not hurt.....once you do you lost.....so no I don't agree with what you said, and I hope Gase was not happy with some of what he saw last week or the week before...they were loses.........
 
No running game and terrible defense is not the basis of winning football. Until that is fixed, this team will be inconsistant and stuggle.
The flaws are obvious, and it isnt coaching.
The teams blueprint is wrong and we have an idiot owner and GM.
Gase is going to a gunfight with a pocket knife
 
gfish24 said:
Just an FYI to all those who use terms such as there are "no moral victories" in the nfl.... Stfu... Unless you're a coach this phrase is ridiculous... Idiots like Omar keep using this type of talk to sound knowledgable but in reality has no ****ing clue... It's as ridiculous as Omar saying Tanne isn't clutch because of the Hail Mary intersection at the end of the game....Coaches assess and know where their team stands beyond wins or losses and if they can match up with teams well, or can't.... Gase and his staff are gathering and assessing that information right now... You can say there are no moral victories, but you can't tell me the staff wasn't somewhat pleased with the D in Seattle (for the most part) or the O's performance in the 2nd half yesterday...
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I really HATE the phrase "moral victories," because it includes the word "victories." That said, two points . . . 1) anyone who's played organized sports and has barely lost to what was considered a clearly superior team, knows the coach considers that an accomplishment. There is no "we lost, we stunk." It's "hold your heads up. Don't be embarrassed. We've learned we can play good teams tough." Call it what you want, but that's not the same as other losses. 2) Close losses to good teams show, unfortunately, the bad very clearly. But it also shows some good units/players. This has nothing to do with "moral victories," but too many see "all bad" or skip the bad part with the "moral victory" line. Admit the bad. Admit the good.
 
We were a 6 win team with a completely new staff, GM and half the roster who played two playoff teams on the road. Bill Bellichik won 5 games his first season in NE and he had already been a HC for 5 seasons. Rome wasn't built in a day and it sure as heck wasn't built by Mike Tannenbaum.
 
Does anyone remember NE's Week 4 loss to KC in 2014? Before someone says, 'We're not the Patriots,' I understand this, and I don't think this team will make the playoffs, let alone the SB. But, one of the best teams in recent history looked terrible two weeks later in the season. Keeping in mind that NE had an established core going into 2014, they had fewer reasons/excuses to struggle early than a Miami team with a new staff. Also, Miami's losses to SEA and NE were nowhere near as bad as the NE loss to KC. It's WAY too early to judge this team and staff. As the cliché goes, football is a game of inches. A millisecond of hesitation is the difference between an INT and allowing a catch, a TFL and allowing a 10-yard run; flipped, the same applies for the offense. Does Miami make up those milliseconds as they gel? We don't know.

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new...riots-blowout-loss-at-chiefs-as-turning-point
 
SCLSU Mud Dogs said:
You win or you lose. I don't give a **** how it happens. It just happens that Miami tends to lose close games and that's nothing new.

Saying you can take good things from a loss, when you're consistently a mediocre football team, is like saying everybody should get participation trophies at the end of the season.

If you can take good things then get ****ing better. Don't follow up a solid defensive performance with a ****ty one, and don't follow a slow start on offense with another slow start on offense.
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That's a bunch of crap. You evaluate a game based on the entirety of the game.. Not by the win or loss.

If your evaluating how a player played.. Your argument is.. Well if you lost.. You suck. Cuz it's all about wins or losses. Saying it's all about wins or losses is just being a lazy fan. When you evaluate how a line plays.. Do you do it by wins or losses? When you evaluate how DVP played.. Is it by just the outcome?

Obviously if your spending time on a Dolphins message board.. Generally you are here to break the game down into pieces... To gain an understanding of what plays are being called.. At which players are developing...

If your here just to bitch cuz we lost.. Well.. Your not gonna offer much to any discussion

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j-off-her-doll said:
Does anyone remember NE's Week 4 loss to KC in 2014? Before someone says, 'We're not the Patriots,' I understand this, and I don't think this team will make the playoffs, let alone the SB. But, one of the best teams in recent history looked terrible two weeks later in the season. Keeping in mind that NE had an established core going into 2014, they had fewer reasons/excuses to struggle early than a Miami team with a new staff. Also, Miami's losses to SEA and NE were nowhere near as bad as the NE loss to KC. It's WAY too early to judge this team and staff. As the cliché goes, football is a game of inches. A millisecond of hesitation is the difference between an INT and allowing a catch, a TFL and allowing a 10-yard run; flipped, the same applies for the offense. Does Miami make up those milliseconds as they gel? We don't know.

http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/new...riots-blowout-loss-at-chiefs-as-turning-point
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In 2008 we started 0 and 2. Second game of season we went to Arizona and got crushed 31 to 10.

We finished season 11 and 5.
 
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