The Core Issue(s) With This Team

[VTach]

To start off, I'm a fins fan that lives in Boston.

Watching this game is completely nauseating. We essentially lucked out against the Chargers and if it weren't for a Younghoe, we would be 0-3 right now.

Year after year, this team ranges from mediocre to slightly below average. My question is why? This has spanned different owners, countless QBs and Coaches, GPS, etc.

It's beyond frustrating watching this garbage and as bad as I want to not care, it does frustrate me. Thoughts?

(BTW Ted Ginn just caught a 20yd pass on us. I think I want to vomit a little)

 

[Drfletcherdc]

This offense is one of the worse in the NFL history. Gase needs to take all the blame and hand in play calling duties. I don't watch coaches film but I can pretty much tell what play is being called.

 

[VTach]

I honestly don't know why Gate insists on hanging on to play calling rights. Any info on Christensen? Is he any good - he can't be any worse, right?

I just don't understand, we essentially have the same OLine, and personnel. I mean, was Tannehill THAT good? What's the difference?

 

[Adam Keller]

Yes sir, you get it. Despite the knuckledusters who micro-pick and think its because Cutler is a little bit worse then potato Tannehill, or that Grant should be fed "bombs," or that Mike hull is a little bit worse than the rookie without a knee cap, or that Maxwell is slow, or that we have zero TEs on the roster that are any good, or that the OL has been a scam for 6 years, or that we have a bad punter, or that Suh is grossly overpaid and only a crap franchise would give a fat-azz DT $19 million, or that our best pass rusher is still a 35 year old geriatric with 1.5 achilles, or that we draft a DE this year who everyone knew sucked, or that Philbin was a loser and Ireland was clueless, or that Gase is as overrated and in above his head as the Rooney rule Dolphins DE-coordinator that got hired by denver, or that we passed on Brees 20 years ago, or that the whole thing has sucked since Shula and Marino......the whole thing is rotten from the core. Put Cutler in New England this year and they still win the AFC, put potato Tannehill in new England and they might even reach the Super Bowl, put Ajayi on Pittsbught and he runs for 160 yards today, the whole thing is a giant turd dumpster. It will never get better until it is burnt and bleached. Get rid of all the vestiges of cancer on this team, Suh, landry, tannehill, Parker, Cutler, Timmonds, maxwell, Julious Thomas, half the OL, whatever, it doesnt matter.

 

[gofins60]

When Philbin was fired, a new regime should have tossed out Coyle's pathetic defensive schemes, ditched the ineffective dink-and-dunk offense, and rebuilt an o-line that gave up the most sacks over a 4 year period (and let's not forget replacing all of the below-average players added to the team under Philbin/Tannenbaum). So, what did they do? Gase prefers the dink-and-dunk, they're using basically the same o-line, and the defense under Joseph/Burke is just as bad as Coyle's defense. I'm not surprised that the team is so bad. Last season was a fluke; they got lucky and won a lot of close games that they would normally lose. However, this year they could possibly be the worst team in the league. Maybe Ross will FINALLY clean house... including Tannenbaum and everyone in the Front Office.

 

[VTach]

I mean both Ross and Huizenga were and are hands off owners - usually a good thing. The President, GM, scouting dept - the whole damn thing is rancid. It's just like the Browns (who at least seem to have a decent QB that will ameliorate some of their ineptitude)... But you're exactly right. I can't wait till Landry gets picked up by the Pats and turns into Welker 2.0.

It just Sucks that we chose this franchise and that they are so hopelessly mismanaged. Your paragraph was so spot on... I am hard pressed to find any redeeming highlights... It is such a disillusionment with Gase, seeing how hyped this man was when he arrived.

 

[VTach]

When Philbin was fired, a new regime should have tossed out Coyle's pathetic defensive schemes, ditched the ineffective dink-and-dunk offense, and rebuilt an o-line that gave up the most sacks over a 4 year period. So, what did they do? Gase prefers the dink-and-dunk, they're using basically the same o-line, and the defense under Joseph/Burke is just as bad as Coyle's defense. I'm not surprised that the team is so bad. Last season was a fluke; they won a lot of close games that they would normally lose. However, this year they could possibly be the worst team in the league. Maybe Ross will FINALLY clean house... including Tannenbaum and everyone in the Front Office.

So freaking true. The Seahawks are a good example of what can be done when you don't take half measures and clean house completely.

 

[dolfan25]

Ameliorate???

 

[<O>]

Something seems wrong with how the team manages training camp in preparation for the season. This is the second season in a row in which the offense seems completely inept and unprepared to start the season.

It's as if they do nothing in training camp to become proficient at what they're supposed to doing, like a team that starts trying to play together as a team in game one of the regular season, without a training camp in which to practice or refine its offense first.

 

[finmann]

Yes sir, you get it. Despite the knuckledusters who micro-pick and think its because Cutler is a little bit worse then potato Tannehill, or that Grant should be fed "bombs," or that Mike hull is a little bit worse than the rookie without a knee cap, or that Maxwell is slow, or that we have zero TEs on the roster that are any good, or that the OL has been a scam for 6 years, or that we have a bad punter, or that Suh is grossly overpaid and only a crap franchise would give a fat-azz DT $19 million, or that our best pass rusher is still a 35 year old geriatric with 1.5 achilles, or that we draft a DE this year who everyone knew sucked, or that Philbin was a loser and Ireland was clueless, or that Gase is as overrated and in above his head as the Rooney rule Dolphins DE-coordinator that got hired by denver, or that we passed on Brees 20 years ago, or that the whole thing has sucked since Shula and Marino......the whole thing is rotten from the core. Put Cutler in New England this year and they still win the AFC, put potato Tannehill in new England and they might even reach the Super Bowl, put Ajayi on Pittsbught and he runs for 160 yards today, the whole thing is a giant turd dumpster. It will never get better until it is burnt and bleached. Get rid of all the vestiges of cancer on this team, Suh, landry, tannehill, Parker, Cutler, Timmonds, maxwell, Julious Thomas, half the OL, whatever, it doesnt matter.

I don't understand your post......seriously I am not trying to be funny but what do you mean by "the whole thing is rotten from the core"? and "get rid of all the vestiges of cancer on this team"? Who or what are you talking about?

 

[VTach]

I don't understand your post......seriously I am not trying to be funny but what do you mean by "the whole thing is rotten from the core"? and "get rid of all the vestiges of cancer on this team"? Who or what are you talking about?

Essentially cutting out the entire damn thing... Build it from the ground up. With the transitions, they always take half measures and retain certain pieces from a prior inept administration. It's ridiculous.

 

[finmann]

Essentially cutting out the entire damn thing... Build it from the ground up. With the transitions, they always take half measures and retain certain pieces from a prior inept administration. It's ridiculous.

I am in total agreement with you.....

 

[rudys119]

Essentially cutting out the entire damn thing... Build it from the ground up. With the transitions, they always take half measures and retain certain pieces from a prior inept administration. It's ridiculous.

kind of like the bills are doing and stock piling draft picks

 

[finmann]

kind of like the bills are doing and stock piling draft picks

I was hoping we would have done this over the last couple of years......I wanted us to trade down this last draft and accumulate draft picks so bad.

 

[BigNastyFish]

Keep losing! I want to draft Josh Allen*, QB, Wyoming

:)

Do that -- get rid of Ross --- clean house -- move forward!

I'm all in!