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Has anyone stopped to consider that our offense (and of course our whole team) will be VERY different if we have a QB who simply does NOT throw interceptions as often, especially ones returned for touchdowns? This could be the one way Frerotte shines over Fiedler and Feeley.

If we have an overall strategy that attempts to field a dominant defense and an offense that rallies off the defense's play (Wannstedt's philosophy), a QB who doesn't make as many mistakes could really turn this team around. Now if we can develop a running game, block well enough, hit some longballs, and have a dynamic offense on top of that, well then we finally have a TEAM.

But the take home message is this: if Frerotte can minimize the mistakes from the QB position, all of the sudden we have a MUCH better team. Maybe that's why he's starting.
 
shouright said:
Has anyone stopped to consider that our offense (and of course our whole team) will be VERY different if we have a QB who simply does NOT throw interceptions as often, especially ones returned for touchdowns? This could be the one way Frerotte shines over Fiedler and Feeley.

If we have an overall strategy that attempts to field a dominant defense and an offense that rallies off the defense's play (Wannstedt's philosophy), a QB who doesn't make as many mistakes could really turn this team around. Now if we can develop a running game, block well enough, hit some longballs, and have a dynamic offense on top of that, well then we finally have a TEAM.

But the take home message is this: if Frerotte can minimize the mistakes from the QB position, all of the sudden we have a MUCH better team. Maybe that's why he's starting.
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Frerotte is a babysitter and you know it, my friend. He is the lesser of two evils and is not the answer. ;)
 
Celtkin said:
Frerotte is a babysitter and you know it, my friend. He is the lesser of two evils and is not the answer. ;)
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Nobody's calling him the answer, but if he throws half as many INTs returned for TDs, we could be 8-8 instead of 4-12. Now if he throws 10% as many, we could be 10-6.
 
shouright said:
Has anyone stopped to consider that our offense (and of course our whole team) will be VERY different if we have a QB who simply does NOT throw interceptions as often, especially ones returned for touchdowns? This could be the one way Frerotte shines over Fiedler and Feeley.

If we have an overall strategy that attempts to field a dominant defense and an offense that rallies off the defense's play (Wannstedt's philosophy), a QB who doesn't make as many mistakes could really turn this team around. Now if we can develop a running game, block well enough, hit some longballs, and have a dynamic offense on top of that, well then we finally have a TEAM.

But the take home message is this: if Frerotte can minimize the mistakes from the QB position, all of the sudden we have a MUCH better team. Maybe that's why he's starting.
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I watched all of Minnesota's preaseason games, and I salivate at the thought that that's what our O could look like if its firing on all cylinders. That team makes running an offense look like a piece of cake. If Gus can come anywhere close to completing 60% or more of his passes, we could be looking at a pretty potent machine.
 
shouright said:
Has anyone stopped to consider that our offense (and of course our whole team) will be VERY different if we have a QB who simply does NOT throw interceptions as often, especially ones returned for touchdowns? This could be the one way Frerotte shines over Fiedler and Feeley.

If we have an overall strategy that attempts to field a dominant defense and an offense that rallies off the defense's play (Wannstedt's philosophy), a QB who doesn't make as many mistakes could really turn this team around. Now if we can develop a running game, block well enough, hit some longballs, and have a dynamic offense on top of that, well then we finally have a TEAM.

But the take home message is this: if Frerotte can minimize the mistakes from the QB position, all of the sudden we have a MUCH better team. Maybe that's why he's starting.
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Nice post and I think if we minimize the mistakes we will be a lot better team but I wouldn't say a dynamic offense even if we have to good runningbacks getting the job done.
 
Celtkin said:
Frerotte is a babysitter and you know it, my friend. He is the lesser of two evils and is not the answer. ;)
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I think there is potentially another reason at play here. He knows the offense and can help the starters that will still be around in 2006 get very comfortable with it so only the QB and any new starters will have to adjust next year. With Feeley or Rosenfels, I fear the team doesn't even get that much. Yes, I am suggesting that 2005's passing game might just be a lot of practice for 2006.
 
The one thing he does have here he didn't in Minnesota are feature runners. You can't tell me that Onterrio Smith and Mewelde Moore are better than Ronnie Brown and Ricky Williams.
 
shouright said:
Nobody's calling him the answer, but if he throws half as many INTs returned for TDs, we could be 8-8 instead of 4-12. Now if he throws 10% as many, we could be 10-6.
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You are dreaming with 10-6 record.

I'd rather go 4-12 with AJ/Sage starting than 8-8 with Gus.

At least a young QB would be gaining game experience.
 
shouright said:
Nobody's calling him the answer, but if he throws half as many INTs returned for TDs, we could be 8-8 instead of 4-12. Now if he throws 10% as many, we could be 10-6.
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Bro, I respect 99.99 % of your posts. I'll agree that he is 1/2 as good as Feeley but, ask yourself, how good is that?

I know you are trying to make a point but do you see a reality in which Frerotte could make us a 10-6 team?
 
Jimmy James said:
I think there is potentially another reason at play here. He knows the offense and can help the starters that will still be around in 2006 get very comfortable with it so only the QB and any new starters will have to adjust next year. With Feeley or Rosenfels, I fear the team doesn't even get that much. Yes, I am suggesting that 2005's passing game might just be a lot of practice for 2006.
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Man I hope not. I dont think I could take a 21 game preseason
 
shouright said:
Has anyone stopped to consider that our offense (and of course our whole team) will be VERY different if we have a QB who simply does NOT throw interceptions as often, especially ones returned for touchdowns? This could be the one way Frerotte shines over Fiedler and Feeley.

If we have an overall strategy that attempts to field a dominant defense and an offense that rallies off the defense's play (Wannstedt's philosophy), a QB who doesn't make as many mistakes could really turn this team around. Now if we can develop a running game, block well enough, hit some longballs, and have a dynamic offense on top of that, well then we finally have a TEAM.

But the take home message is this: if Frerotte can minimize the mistakes from the QB position, all of the sudden we have a MUCH better team. Maybe that's why he's starting.
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I do agree. At this point in time, Gus has the most experience and will probably make the least mistakes. Anything beyond that is bonus. Unfortunately, I would prefer to be playing a guy who has the potential to be more than that. Alas, I don't know that that person is on the roster as of yet.
 
Jimmy James said:
I think there is potentially another reason at play here. He knows the offense and can help the starters that will still be around in 2006 get very comfortable with it so only the QB and any new starters will have to adjust next year. With Feeley or Rosenfels, I fear the team doesn't even get that much. Yes, I am suggesting that 2005's passing game might just be a lot of practice for 2006.
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I don't support Feeley and I don't support Frerotte. Neither QB's are the answer.

Frerotte may know the offense but he had not effectively executed it. He is a career back up and will always be (and Feeley is in the same position)
 
Celtkin said:
I don't support Feeley and I don't support Frerotte. Neither QB's are the answer.

Frerotte may know the offense but he had not effectively executed it. He is a career back up and will always be (and Feeley is in the same position)
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I'm not trying to make it about who I favor either. I'm just pointing out that he does have experience in the O going for him and that it may count for something in an instructional sense.
 
Dphins4me said:
You are dreaming with 10-6 record.

I'd rather go 4-12 with AJ/Sage starting than 8-8 with Gus.

At least a young QB would be gaining game experience.
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sage and aj are not young, they are 28 and 27 respectively. young is 22/23, not five year vets. frerotte is the best qb on the roster, and that's not saying much, but he is. you go w/ who gives you the best chance to win, not the younger guy
 
Phishstix said:
sage and aj are not young, they are 28 and 27 respectively. young is 22/23, not five year vets. frerotte is the best qb on the roster, and that's not saying much, but he is. you go w/ who gives you the best chance to win, not the younger guy
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you got em mixed up bro....AJ is 28, and Sage is 27 :tongue:
 
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