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If Ronnie can play the FB position adequately (and he sure did at times in college -- he's only 13 pounds lighter than Heath Evans, our starting FB right now), there isn't a defense in the league built to stop the kind of player he is with Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. Hear me out on this:

If Ronnie lines up at FB and plays that position adequately, defenses will have to keep a base defense (3-4 or 4-3 with 4 DBs) in the game to defend the run. Now you split Ronnie out wide, and Linehan has his one-back, 3 WR set (with Ronnie in effect being the 3rd WR), and instead of being able to bring in another DB like it typically would when facing a 3 WR set, the defense is stuck in its base defense with 4 DBs.

This creates mismatches all over the field.

Number one, Ronnie Brown on most safeties in the league is a mismatch right there (Ronnie is faster AND heavier).

Number two, if you split McMichael out wide on the other side, he'll have to be covered by a linebacker because the defense isn't going to use both safeties in 1-on-1 coverage (it'd leave Chambers and Booker open deep in 1-on-1 coverage -- too risky). Now you have two mismatches -- Brown on a safety, and McMichael on a linebacker.

Number three, don't forget Ricky is still in the backfield in a one-back set -- you can still run him all over the field or pass to him if you want. With McMichael split out wide with a LB covering him, there will be a vacated LB spot to run Ricky at or a screen pass to run to one side (the vacated LB's side) with no LB there to cover it.

If the LB covering McMichael cheats up to cover the screen to Ricky, you throw to McMike long or throw to Chambers or Booker with no safeties back there (presumably they'd put a safety on McMike if the LB is covering the screen, and the other safety is on Ronnie split out wide).

If defenses want to bring in another DB (5 DBs total) to stop all this, then we just run over them with Ronnie and Ricky all day. There isn't a defense in the league that can stop a running game with a LB off the field all day.

See what Ronnie Brown alone can do? I think we can have a nearly indefensible offense this year if Linehan does this right. Like I said, there isn't a defense in the league built to stop a Marshall Faulk-like player who can play FB (Ronnie) and Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. There has never been an offense in the league that has featured this kind of lineup.
 
Sounds good. A lot of thought. All I care is that the offense performs no matter how they do it.
 
shouright said:
If Ronnie can play the FB position adequately (and he sure did at times in college -- he's only 13 pounds lighter than Heath Evans, our starting FB right now), there isn't a defense in the league built to stop the kind of player he is with Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. Hear me out on this:

If Ronnie lines up at FB and plays that position adequately, defenses will have to keep a base defense (3-4 or 4-3 with 4 DBs) in the game to defend the run. Now you split Ronnie out wide, and Linehan has his one-back, 3 WR set (with Ronnie in effect being the 3rd WR), and instead of being able to bring in another DB like it typically would when facing a 3 WR set, the defense is stuck in its base defense with 4 DBs.

This creates mismatches all over the field.

Number one, Ronnie Brown on most safeties in the league is a mismatch right there (Ronnie is faster AND heavier).

Number two, if you split McMichael out wide on the other side, he'll have to be covered by a linebacker because the defense isn't going to use both safeties in 1-on-1 coverage (it'd leave Chambers and Booker open deep in 1-on-1 coverage -- too risky). Now you have two mismatches -- Brown on a safety, and McMichael on a linebacker.

Number three, don't forget Ricky is still in the backfield in a one-back set -- you can still run him all over the field or pass to him if you want. With McMichael split out wide with a LB covering him, there will be a vacated LB spot to run Ricky at or a screen pass to run to one side (the vacated LB's side) with no LB there to cover it.

If the LB covering McMichael cheats up to cover the screen to Ricky, you throw to McMike long or throw to Chambers or Booker with no safeties back there (presumably they'd put a safety on McMike if the LB is covering the screen, and the other safety is on Ronnie split out wide).

If defenses want to bring in another DB (5 DBs total) to stop all this, then we just run over them with Ronnie and Ricky all day. There isn't a defense in the league that can stop a running game with a LB off the field all day.

See what Ronnie Brown alone can do? I think we can have a nearly indefensible offense this year if Linehan does this right. Like I said, there isn't a defense in the league built to stop a Marshall Faulk-like player who can play FB (Ronnie) and Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. There has never been an offense in the league that has featured this kind of lineup.

Great post. And i am almost convinced that is EXACTLY what will happen when Ricky returns.
But evey time it gets brought up here all you get is; "We didn't spend the 2nd overall pick in the draft and gave that much money to a FB....."
But what people don't understand is he won't be your Daddy's fullback. He will be - for a lack of a better term - a hybrid fullback. Doing thing's your Daddy's fullback wouldn't dream of doing.
I can't wait to see how things unfold.
 
pigskinguy said:
Great post. And i am almost convinced that is EXACTLY what will happen when Ricky returns.
But evey time it gets brought up here all you get is; "We didn't spend the 2nd overall pick in the draft and gave that much money to a FB....."
But what people don't understand is he won't be your Daddy's fullback. He will be - for a lack of a better term - a hybrid fullback. Doing thing's your Daddy's fullback wouldn't dream of doing.
I can't wait to see how things unfold.
Exactly -- I don't think Ronnie's going to be a FB in the Sam Gash/Lorenzo Neal mold. They aren't going to pound him into linebackers in front of Ricky all day. But if he can lead block up the middle well enough on about 3-5 plays per game, that'll open up everything I talked about above.
 
shouright said:
Exactly -- I don't think Ronnie's going to be a FB in the Sam Gash/Lorenzo Neal mold. They aren't going to pound him into linebackers in front of Ricky all day. But if he can lead block up the middle well enough on about 3-5 plays per game, that'll open up everything I talked about above.

And that is the key. Can Ronnie block convincingly enough early on in the game? If he can we will be able to create mismatches on almost every play.
I doubt he will get asked to lead block more that 6-10 times a game. Just enough to keep the defense honest........if Brown can do it.
 
great post..... Linnehan has got to be having a field day with all the possibilities. I havent been this excited about a dolphin offense since danny left
 
pigskinguy said:
And that is the key. Can Ronnie block convincingly enough early on in the game? If he can we will be able to create mismatches on almost every play.
I doubt he will get asked to lead block more that 6-10 times a game. Just enough to keep the defense honest........if Brown can do it.
I think he can do it -- blocking is one of his fortes. And the average LB weighs 240 -- Ronnie weighs 232 and will have a full head of steam.
 
shouright said:
I think he can do it -- blocking is one of his fortes. And the average LB weighs 240 -- Ronnie weighs 232 and will have a full head of steam.

Physically speaking I have no doubt he can do it. The mental side is anyone's guess.
It takes a different kind of cat to be the first guy full steam into the middle of line like a FB is required to do. You need to be wired a certain way.......let's hope Ronnie wired that way.
 
pigskinguy said:
Physically speaking I have no doubt he can do it. The mental side is anyone's guess.
It takes a different kind of cat to be the first guy full steam into the middle of line like a FB is required to do. You need to be wired a certain way.......let's hope Ronnie wired that way.
Good point. And I was just thinking -- if we do this offense, defenses will basically have to answer with an Eddie Moore-type player. A guy who's about 6'2" 230 and can run like a deer and cover downfield really well. That's the only kind of guy who can cover Ronnie when he splits out wide and still defend the run adequately. Sean Taylor is about the only guy I can think of like that, and there aren't very many of him right now.
 
shouright said:
Good point. And I was just thinking -- if we do this offense, defenses will basically have to answer with an Eddie Moore-type player. A guy who's about 6'2" 230 and can run like a deer and cover downfield really well. That's the only kind of guy who can cover Ronnie when he splits out wide and still defend the run adequately. Sean Taylor is about the only guy I can think of like that.

Exactly, that's the key. Most teams won't have an answer for Ronnie Brown. Unless they put another corner in. In which case we run all day and allow Ricky and Ronnie to both run for 100 yards. It's a beautiful thing really.
And it's why I don't think Ricky will be traded this year next year or any other year. I believe Saban had a plan when he brought back Ricky and that plan had nothing to do with trading him. Thought's probably never crossed his mind. Saban is far to smart for that.
 
shouright said:
If Ronnie can play the FB position adequately (and he sure did at times in college -- he's only 13 pounds lighter than Heath Evans, our starting FB right now), there isn't a defense in the league built to stop the kind of player he is with Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. Hear me out on this:

If Ronnie lines up at FB and plays that position adequately, defenses will have to keep a base defense (3-4 or 4-3 with 4 DBs) in the game to defend the run. Now you split Ronnie out wide, and Linehan has his one-back, 3 WR set (with Ronnie in effect being the 3rd WR), and instead of being able to bring in another DB like it typically would when facing a 3 WR set, the defense is stuck in its base defense with 4 DBs.

This creates mismatches all over the field.

Number one, Ronnie Brown on most safeties in the league is a mismatch right there (Ronnie is faster AND heavier).

Number two, if you split McMichael out wide on the other side, he'll have to be covered by a linebacker because the defense isn't going to use both safeties in 1-on-1 coverage (it'd leave Chambers and Booker open deep in 1-on-1 coverage -- too risky). Now you have two mismatches -- Brown on a safety, and McMichael on a linebacker.

Number three, don't forget Ricky is still in the backfield in a one-back set -- you can still run him all over the field or pass to him if you want. With McMichael split out wide with a LB covering him, there will be a vacated LB spot to run Ricky at or a screen pass to run to one side (the vacated LB's side) with no LB there to cover it.

If the LB covering McMichael cheats up to cover the screen to Ricky, you throw to McMike long or throw to Chambers or Booker with no safeties back there (presumably they'd put a safety on McMike if the LB is covering the screen, and the other safety is on Ronnie split out wide).

If defenses want to bring in another DB (5 DBs total) to stop all this, then we just run over them with Ronnie and Ricky all day. There isn't a defense in the league that can stop a running game with a LB off the field all day.

See what Ronnie Brown alone can do? I think we can have a nearly indefensible offense this year if Linehan does this right. Like I said, there isn't a defense in the league built to stop a Marshall Faulk-like player who can play FB (Ronnie) and Ricky Williams on the field at the same time. There has never been an offense in the league that has featured this kind of lineup.
A "Marshall Faulk-like player" ?? Not from what I've seen ..not even close...not even at Marshall's age right now.lol But I get what you mean..just had to give you a little crap on that one. I WISH he was a Marshall Faulk(in his prime). We would be unstoppable. No I'm not Ronnie hating..I know he'll get better.
 
pigskinguy said:
Exactly, that's the key. Most teams won't have an answer for Ronnie Brown. Unless they put another corner in. In which case we run all day and allow Ricky and Ronnie to both run for 100 yards. It's a beautiful thing really.
And it's why I don't think Ricky will be traded this year next year or any other year. I believe Saban had a plan when he brought back Ricky and that plan had nothing to do with trading him. Thought's probably never crossed his mind. Saban is far to smart for that.
They could put another safety in, but I think it'd be a similar result. You just can't put a guy who weighs 205-215 in at a LB spot and expect him to take on O linemen and lead blockers against the run.

And I agree with you about Ricky. I think Saban is the kind of guy who thinks outside the box and looks for advantages with his personnel like this.
 
IBleedAqua said:
A "Marshall Faulk-like player" ?? Not from what I've seen ..not even close...not even at Marshall's age right now.lol But I get what you mean..just had to give you a little crap on that one. I WISH he was a Marshall Faulk(in his prime). We would be unstoppable. No I'm not Ronnie hating..I know he'll get better.
More in terms of his athletic capabilities. He can run a 4.4 and has the hands and agility to catch downfield like Faulk. We haven't seen much of it yet because he's had to play RB with Ricky out, and I think he's still learning the playbook too, especially the passing game.
 
And VERY good points by the way....maybe you should be calling the plays for our offense ;).
 
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