The Draft Myth vs. Developing Talent & Why i think we'll turn this ship around | FinHeaven - Miami Dolphins Forums

The Draft Myth vs. Developing Talent & Why i think we'll turn this ship around

Slim

VIPeezy
Joined
May 27, 2004
Messages
2,535
Reaction score
15
Age
42
Location
Montreal, Canada
I've read enough Matt Ryan versus Jake Long threads in my lifetime to know one thing: people often live in a video game type world where a players' situation & development are rarely taken into consideration when declaring them a success or a bust.

I struggle with the Ryan v Long debate because it is based on one fundamental flaw: If Miami drafted Ryan, (or Brees, or Brady, or any other player for that matter) he would have performed similarly in Miami to how he does today. The fact of the matter is, you cannot predict how a player will perform under a different coaching staff, different environment, different teammates, etc.

Although drafting is key to any team's success, it is only a piece of the puzzle - a much smaller piece than some word argue.

Take Rick Spielman for instance. The guy was so bad as our GM it was impressive. He handed draft picks away for guys like Lamar Gordon & AJ Feeley. He was so dreadful that at times you had to wonder if he was doing it on purpose. Miraculously, he lands a job in Minnesota and within one year has turned a lottery team into a division winner and SB contender (he drafts pro bowlers AP, Percy Harvin & Greenway - trades for Allen & signs Hutchinson & Favre). Am i to believe that Spielman suddenly became a great GM? No way in hell. Was he just having a few off years with us? No way in hell. I'd argue that he was the same guy in both situations. Difference is, he had someone who could develop talent in Minnesota, and someone who couldn't in Miami.

The point i'm trying to make here is that player development is equal to or more crucial than drafting. We all know how much of a crap shoot drafting can be. So why do some teams consistently draft better than others? I'd argue that they don't. They sure do develop better though. Some of the best teams have good player development in their makeup (See Pitt, Balt) and it stems from a long line of solid coaches.

If i could take two things away from the Tony era they would be:

1- Tony & Parcells never read up on some of the rule changes over the past decade giving passing offenses a significant advantage.
2- They couldn't develop a picture with a Polaroid camera let alone a young aspiring pro player.

When you really think about it... who did Tony and Co develop while in Miami? Cam Wake? Some argue that we wasted some valuable time with him sitting on the bench in year one. Brandon Marshall? He clearly had catching issues while in Miami. Chad Henne? I firmly believe that he got gradually worse and that part of it was due to the fact that he was taught not to make a mistake rather than having faith in his abilities. I'd argue that our roster is filled with 'could of's' or 'only if's'. That to me screams potential that wasn't properly developed.

It's pretty sad really. When you think about it, a lot of these players have one chance at stardom and 99% of the time they are drafted into a team and have no say in the matter. Chad Henne may be entirely responsible for his own failure, but maybe he's not. If Chad Henne were to sit behind a HOF QB for 3 years as Aaron Rodgers did, and learn to develop his abilities behind a great QB coach, maybe he would have turned out to be a great QB.

Here's where i get excited. We now have a guy who has surrounded himself with coaches that have proven to be capable developing talent. I fully expect to see existing players improve this year with better coaching. I also expect to see our draft bust ratio decrease.
 
Good post. A great reminder that it's one thing to draft great talent, but another to develop it properly. It's been a while since we've had a coaching staff that has experiencing in grooming good talent, specifically at the QB position. If we could get the Matt Ryan that plays in Atlanta, he probably should have been the pick - but could Tony Sparano really develop Matt Ryan into a QB of that caliber? I honestly don't think so.
 
So what's your turd development recipe??

Dolphin's recipe tasts like sh**!! ... or is it the ingredients they shopped for??
 
In Ireland I trust.

Totally agree with your post. Risk Spielman was really the worst. AP? Come'on. This guy gave away Wale Ogunleye for a Marty Booker. He was a disaster. Last year, Ziggy was willing to bring on Parcells in a heartbeat. Spielman will prove he's a disaster at GM. Give the man some time.

I counted all the players picked up by the Dolphins in the past 4 years. I compared them to Ted Thompson. they may not be on the team anymore, but if they're in the league that's all you can ask for.

Out of 32 Ireland's picks, 28 are still in the league. Includes the goners like Pat White, Merling (this morning) and Lex Hilliard and some other dude.

Ted made 34 picks and 31 are still in the league. 88% vs 91%.

Key is David Lee and Henning didn't trust Henne and what qb can't audible at the line? Henne will win in JAcksonville and redeem Ireland and CO.

In Ireland I trust.
 
We might find there was a reason that they did not trust Henne.

You have to draft well and develop talent and then keep it. I've been saying for years that you have to find talent, get talent, coach up talent and then keep the talent.

And just because you are not any good at playing online Madden franchises does not give you the right to take it out on those of us who are......:up:
 
for the most part agree, but Spielman's more or less gotten insanely lucky with Adrian Peterson falling to them last year... hell Greenway falling to. The Vikes have had several very bad reaches under Spielman in the mid rounds that flopped.

But you do have some great points.

The fact is Sparano was too afraid of making mistakes because of what might happen (ie instead of a hail mary at the end of a tied game, kneeling because he didn't want a strip fumble returned for a TD).

I think Tony also had too many tinkering issues. People complain our OL sucked. Well did it really suck, or was it Tony constantly replacing anybody not named Jake Long, or Vernon Carey?

I also think until last year, our coaches for the most part were not assets as they were very conservative in nature.
 
Back
Top Bottom