AZFINSFANFORLIFE
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Unless you build an OL modeled after Washington's Hogs of yesteryear the pocket passer is becoming extinct. Either you can join the movement or you can be left behind to rot!!!
The era of the pocket passer is dead.......
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Michael Scott
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I agree. Our “next” QB must be dual threat but it must be one with elite traits as a passer. Don’t want to make the Justin Fields/Anthony Richardson mistake, and I think that’s what some team is going to do with Jalen Milroe.
If things go left quick in 2025 I’ve got my eye on Nico Iamaleava…..
If things go left quick in 2025 I’ve got my eye on Nico Iamaleava…..
dunegoon
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I have come to that realization as well. Relying solely on a pocket passer even if elite will require too much to accommodate that style. Given this, we shouldn't pay receivers elite money as well.
phinsforlife
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well we will be rotting for the next two years, at least.
If that is true, it is a great shame, but a product of ridiculous rules. QBs can pass, or run around, but if they stay in the pocket and you hit them it is a penalty and if they run out of the pocket and you touch them it is a penalty. No wonder it has become unbalanced.
It should be simple - as a QB the moment you run you are a runner and you get hit. No more slide rule. If you can't take the hits, don't run.The defences would have half a chance. Right now it is impossible to defend a dual threat QB.
It should be simple - as a QB the moment you run you are a runner and you get hit. No more slide rule. If you can't take the hits, don't run.The defences would have half a chance. Right now it is impossible to defend a dual threat QB.
lucid22
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Any other dual threats in next years draft?
BrowardDolfan
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Having a strong OL has been, is, and will always be the key to a successful offense. Pocket passers are in the past, but IMO you need a guy who throws the ball better than he can run it.
Springveldt
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Totally agree, defenses can’t play defense anymore as some of the mobile QB’s are bigger than RB’s but they are not allowed to tackle them.
Watching the Eagles game here and I just watched Hurts run out the pocket then slide while still in the backfield and a Rams defender dives over him and the fans are screaming for a flag.
I don't understand or agree with this take. But before i offer my reasoning with stats/examples, what or who do you consider pocket passers?
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Dominant highly-paid left tackles will go out of style too. Shutdown corners won’t be necessary to run wind sprints with receivers while QB’s sit in the pocket. It’s all edge contain, instinctual linebackers, and nickels and safeties who can break on a dime and tackle.
I’ve been hearing this since the days of Randal Cunningham.
But I think that is the point. The reason it did not work in the Cunningham days is that defences beat him down and made him pay for all the running around. They can't do that now. The OL hold on every play and don't get called, and the QB can run around without ever being hit.
Rowdy1972
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Yeah I don’t believe that at all. Watched Tom Brady rule the league for far too long to say this.
Also, it’s not like Mahomes runs the ball at a high clip either. He’s averages like 300 yards a season. He’s got rushing 14 TDs in 8 seasons. He doesn’t QB sneak anymore. I wouldn’t comsider Mahomes a “dual threat”.
Also, it’s not like Mahomes runs the ball at a high clip either. He’s averages like 300 yards a season. He’s got rushing 14 TDs in 8 seasons. He doesn’t QB sneak anymore. I wouldn’t comsider Mahomes a “dual threat”.
So Tua never got hit scrambling this year? And Josh Allen never takes hits either? Hurts didn't miss 2 games late in the year for a concussion after scrambling?