The Fatal Repeat Mistake

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  1. Heinegrabber

    Heinegrabber Since 84 Finheaven VIP Donator

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    I think Drake played well beyond anyone's expectation.
    I think Tank performed well but still has a way to go.

    If we can ever get the line to perform consistently at either pass or run blocking we can establish an identity.
     
  2. johngarry

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    when our 3-headed 'ghidorah' meet, 2 heads should look Adam straight up and say ".. ok, we tried it your way.. from now on you coach, we'll roster... and this best not happen again."
     
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    It's pretty effing pathetic when there is not ONE position group that anyone can look at and say WE ARE GOOD HERE!

    Ridiculous.
     
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    The biggest repeat mistake is that we've had yet another year with no production from the number 2 pick. This is a decade-long issue. They did pretty well with Godchaux, but we need to hit consistently on rounds 2-3-4 in order to transform as a team. There is no excuse having had this much time with an established coaching staff and front office.
    We need more Kenyan Drakes and fewer Koa Misis.
     
  5. warren4prez

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    Here you go buddy I knew it was a matter of time 30 teams passed on you for a reason he is who he is
    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...-foster-arrested-alabama-marijuana-possession
     
  6. fansinceGWilson

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    Underachieving? Overachiever? I know there's debate, but only those with agendas deny Miami would have won one more game with 17. Cutting penalties in half would have been one more. A TE or 2 OGs maybe one more. This team has talent. 3-4 big holes, but talent
     
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    It's a frustrating team because they do have legitimate star talent:
    Suh Wake Jones Landry Drake look to be stars. The return of RT17, upgrade interior OL & LB, development of younger players- this is a 10 win team next season.
     
  9. BSQ

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    The Dolphins always take the SAFE pick. Charles Harris was the safest pick on their board. The one time they deviated from the safe pick they got royally crushed by the Dion Jordan mistake. They'll make the safest pick next draft again but if they would show some vision and some courage they might be able to get some future stars in Dolphin uniforms. The Miami Heat have Pat Riley, he does a brilliant job right under Steve Ross's nose here in S. Florida. Wouldn't that make him draw some comparisons? Pat Riley, Hall Of Fame Player and Coach, winner of Championships as a player, the Architect of cool championship teams with LeBron and Wade etc. vs Mike Tannenbaum-Atty/ Agent-didn't play sports and never won anything and the odds are towering against him ever being a champion at anything. GM is a VERY important position, in many ways, it's the whole ball game. Why would Ross look at dozens of candidates and of them all pick this New York Attorney who is absolutely NOT A FOOTBALL GUY. Why would he do that? I just can't figure it.
     
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    All I know when it comes to players with off field issues especially with weed you don’t gamble with your 1st rd pick.
     
  11. Vaark

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    and beyond that, we hired as "Czar" a would-be capologist because he would have accepted Woody Johnson's demotion if prospective replacements hadn't expressed misgivings having him still in the building. And of course mediocre Grier proved useful as a Rooney Rule prop lackey! And that's our braintrust ladies and gents!
     
  12. BSQ

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    I sat close to Tannenbaum the entire Bill's game. I know that you can't judge a book by it's cover but if I tried I'd conclude that this guy never did a hard days work in his life. He doesn't inspire me in the least. I've known plenty of guys like him from New York and I'd further conclude that he's lucky that Ross sees value in him because I really don't. C'mon Steve bring in a real Football guy, let him help right the ship, and this ship need righting.

    You guys saw the year end presser. Did Tannenbaum even remotely do or say anything that would lead you believe that he is the right man for the job? I know, I'm preaching to the choir.
     
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    I'm not even sure they believe that themselves, as opposed to telling the fans (and owner!) what they want to hear. Tannenbaum might be mediocre at other things, but he excels at that
     
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    I don't get the hate for the Browns FO. They were going with a long-term plan and amassed a tremendous amount of future draft value, while still adding good talent to the roster. What's Hue's excuse, that he didn't have a QB? We won 6 with a washed-up Cutler and he couldn't even win one? They fired the wrong guy over there
     
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    I thinks the Browns hired the right G.M. and also needed to fire the coach too. Dolphins could have had that DE/LB from Auburn Carl Lawson in the 4th round last year. I know he has had past injuries at auburn that made him fall in the draft but come on. He had 8.5 sacks this year.
     
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    The Fins didnt hire Coughlin.
    Great coaches make great franchises.
    Jacksonville was horrible and now they are in the AFC championship game.
    That should have been the Fins.
    Wash rinse repeat
     
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    Great example. Carl Lawson fit both criteria that I always emphasize. He was an extremely highly rated recruit who fell down the ladder for various reasons, like the injuries that you mentioned.

    But never forget where these guys came from. I always laugh when posters here or elsewhere scoff at the recruiting rankings coming out of high school. It can be incredible clarity, as opposed to tape fixation on merely here and now. The kids who have been the alpha dogs all their lives have considerable opportunity to return to that level, while the players who soar up the rankings in the late going -- but have never been considered special previously -- are huge candidates to level off and be sucker investments.

    http://www.al.com/sports/index.ssf/2013/02/defensive_end_carl_lawson_has.html

    Also, Carl Lawson fared well in the athletic testing last spring. Not at the very top but far superior to Charles Harris. Tables like this can make you sick. We're drafting a sub-50% SPARQ guy in the first round. Then we wonder why his final step is not explosive. Yeah, shocking development:

    https://3sigmaathlete.com/rankings/edge/

    I'll continue to insist we should look for later round gems from the major schools, the programs that stockpile talent annually. Top 5-10 programs in the recruiting game every year. Naturally not all of those players will pan out big and be atop the draft boards. Some of them are going to be sitting there like Godchaux and Lawson, waiting to be scooped up. If we keep looking at small schools and moderate programs we'll remain Crowd and deserve it.

    My approach will have many failures. But when it does connect the pay off can be substantial. The Dolphins continue to waddle along with an approach that almost guarantees the roster will be stacked by ho hum players who are touted here but nobody else particularly cares about. It was numbing today to watch the Jaguars with so many elite players, and in a gorgeous I formation style with awesome permutations, either physical or clever. The Browns have similar potential if they make some wise choices in the next year or two. Pieces are already in place.
     
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    I’m watching Case Keenum lead his team in a 2 minute drill to win a divisonal playoff game. I saw Mariota get a playoff victory last week. And Nick Foles has a chance to play in the Super Bowl. You have teams with below average QB’s in the playoffs because the teams drafted well. They don’t ignore defense or OL play. And those draft picks play out their second contracts with the teams that drafted them. We aren’t going to be one of those teams until Tannenbaum is gone.
     
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    Case Keenum or Nick Foles will be playing in the Super Bowl. Let that sink in. Proof that good drafting can get you there; pay attention Tannenbaum.
     
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    Drafting? Ummm, yeah, but team talent can get an average QB deep in the playoffs. Draft or FA
     
  21. kingfin23

    kingfin23 This is the Year

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    If we can draft Roquan Smith , and land Jimmy Graham. Were a playoff team. I have faith in Tannehill. IMO Draft should be Roquan Smith 1st, Running Back 2nd pick. 3rd Guard. After that just fill in depth. Such as QB and so forth...
     
  22. BSQ

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    It's so hard to know what to do in round 1. The need at QB outweighs all others imo. We've seen how quickly a season goes down the drain when you're not prepared to play with your backup QB. If the QBs that we covet are all gone then it's tough to prioritize the teams other needs. For example, who does the team need more, Q. Nelson, monster Guard or R. Smith MLer? That's a really tough choice but I'm taking Nelson, I just think the kid would make a big difference in the run game. With RT coming off injury, I want the big Guard there to pass protect and help keep RT upright.

    I'm getting a feeling that Tannenbaum thinks it's time for another big splash signing. I hope he can restrain himself. I don't want to break the bank in the Jimmy sweep steaks, draft a TE, I like Troy Fumagali from Wis, the kid is amazing.
     

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