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The In Support Of Tua (Only) Thread

I just wanna say I think Tua is a genuinely good person. I didn't root for Tannehill like this. He needs time, just because Herbert appears to be so amazing, he hasn't gotten a fair shake yet.

Just hope Ross doesn't try to force some trade for Watson if things go south after a few weeks. Tua seems to have great character. Not to bring negative into the thread, but what little I have seen, he just struggles to give up on the play and throw it out of bounds correctly. Dude is giving 100% for sure and I've seen a few plays where it appeared he wanted to throw it OB, but his brain has some thing saying "I can still make this happen" in the middle of his throw.

Happy we have him, because I think Herbert is quickly becoming a ****y mofo like Mahomes (who I really dislike already despite his talent).
 
rafael said:
I can tell you that even after Joe Montana had won a couple of SBs there were SF fans who would say that Montana wasn’t that good, was just a system guy, was just a product of a good supporting cast, etc. So I assume that Tua could achieve similar success and still have the same critics here.
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Bill Walsh actually attempted to trade Montana to get John Elway in the 1983 draft. After he'd already been a SB MVP and pro bowl'er.
 
royalshank said:
I think Wilson could have tried to make a play on it.
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How? He was running full speed out the back of the endzone when the ball was tipped. Not much he could do. Defender made a great play. I thought the ball could've gotten there a bit earlier, but there was nothing Wilson could've done. DB made a nice play.
 
royalshank said:
My only criticism in his entire game yesterday were those 2 horrific throws (1 almost picked and the other picked) where for a moment I thought it was Fitz back there. Can’t do that stuff.
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You CAN do that stuff -- and WILL from time to time -- when playing aggressively. The key is having the experience and wisdom to know when to play aggressively and when not to.

Furthermore, we Dolphins fans can't have it both ways. When Tua was playing very conservatively and not throwing INT's last season, he was being criticized for it. When he reverses course and plays with an aggressive mindset -- we have to live with the results. Or just not criticize for being conservative. Pick one.

Fitz didn't know how to balance aggressive with conservative. That's why he was so very hot or cold. Hopefully Tua is able to develop that part of his game to a level Fitz never reached.

I believe he will.
 
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Saw the title and really like the idea of opposing threads. Mods...maybe think about stickying these two topics. This is going to be a thing...
 
Vaark said:
Let's also keep in mind that Bellycheat and Jones might have gotten our playbook, or at least scheme from one of the Fins they picked up; while Tua was operating in the dark.
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Belecheat had a month or more to prepare a game plan. And he surely gleaned some info from Malcolm Perry once they claimed him.

Don't forget that Kyle Van Noy knows a lot about the Dolphins offensive players and how things operate over there. While signals were changed and other measures taken, both those players still had a lot of inside info to offer.
 
fishfanmiami said:
Little known fact

The OP brother @Vaark is a south paw as well
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So am I.
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rafael said:
As an Alabama football hater, I didn't watch much of Tua until I started scouting him as a potential Miami pick. What surprised me most was how aggressive he was as a passer. When I watch film on a QB, I naturally think where I think he should be looking, going based on my guess on the play design. Tua went with the deeper even when he had a safe throw underneath more often than any QB I've ever scouted. Now this was Alabama so he often had multiple guys open so there really wasn't a bad choice, but his instinct was so consistently to go deep, to go for the throat. He was literally the most aggressive college QB prospect I have ever scouted.

So when media and fans latched on to his low YPA stat last year and claimed he was only a guy who dinked and dunked, it was a clear example of people who scout a stat sheet rather than film or the player. That was obviously the design of Gailey's offense and what he was told to do. His natural instincts are to look deep first. Obviously as a young player his decision-making, grasp of the offense and understanding of NFL defenses will take time to develop. I am excited to see what Tua becomes in say, year 5 in the NFL. I think at that point he could very well be Brady-like. But in the interim I still expect that he will be among the best and most consistent deep passers in the league. There will be game plans and defenses that dictate a more conservative approach at times, but on balance this will be an aggressive offense.
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Great post
 
I just watched the “All-22” tape from the Patriots game. Our OL was atrocious. Kindly was ESPECIALLY BAD. Besides that…. Our receivers got almost no separation. It was way worse than what you see on broadcast television. Even Gesicki was bad.

I would like to publicly apologize to Tua for anything negative I’ve ever said about him. Oh…One more thing….Chris Grier still sucks.
 
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