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The Main Problem with the Phins

Roman529

Roman529

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Here is my Top Three:

1. Very weak receivers. Yes, we can sometimes break a long one with Camarillo and Hartline, but our main guys (Ginn, Bess, and throw in TE Fasano) just are too inconsistent. Ronnie makes a perfect pass to Fasano late in the game and he drops it. Ginn not only dropped passes but when the pass is coming in to him he takes his eye completely off the ball. Do you see Randy Moss or Wes Welker dropping these passes? Very rarely. Camarillo and Hartline did the best they could with their limited chances...at least they came to play.

2. Soft defensive backs. When you have a chance to make a pick you have to make it. Also, how do you allow Jeremy Shockey to drag you 50 yards down the field?

3. Our coaching staff goes away from what is working. We were up 24-3 and killing them with our running game, and then we stop running it. Ricky Williams pretty much turned into the invisible man after his 3 TD's...why did we stop going to him in the 2nd half? The officiating also sucked but that's life....good teams find a way to overcome bad calls.

This was as sickening a loss as I can remember....just like the Colt's game earlier this year. We need guys who can play 60 minutes of football. :rolleyes2:
 
Our safeties are like tugboats. Toot, toot! Here to take you into port, Mr. Shockey.

We need to sign some torpedoes.
 
Ginn cannot be fixed, his time is done.

The crappy safety play can be fixed in free agency or the draft next year.

The playcalling can also be fixed. I'm thinking Henning was trying to put the dagger in early but it kept coming back to bite him in the a**.
 
we know what the main problem is

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Yeah I hate seeing our Safeties and Linebackers getting owned by TEs, but it makes it even worse when it's some assclown like Shockey. I really can't stand that guy. At least Gates, Clark and Gonzalez have a little class.
 
Roman529 said:
2. Soft defensive backs. When you have a chance to make a pick you have to make it. Also, how do you allow Jeremy Shockey to drag you 50 yards down the field?
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I do not know who is was but when Jeremy Shockey just kept his hand if front of our DB and he just took it and let him get 30 yard was the MOST DISAPPOINTING thing other then dum A** ginn droping another easy pass.
 
Roman529 said:
Here is my Top Three:

1. Very weak receivers. Yes, we can sometimes break a long one with Camarillo and Hartline, but our main guys (Ginn, Bess, and throw in TE Fasano) just are too inconsistent. Ronnie makes a perfect pass to Fasano late in the game and he drops it. Ginn not only dropped passes but when the pass is coming in to him he takes his eye completely off the ball. Do you see Randy Moss or Wes Welker dropping these passes? Very rarely. Camarillo and Hartline did the best they could with their limited chances...at least they came to play.

2. Soft defensive backs. When you have a chance to make a pick you have to make it. Also, how do you allow Jeremy Shockey to drag you 50 yards down the field?

3. Our coaching staff goes away from what is working. We were up 24-3 and killing them with our running game, and then we stop running it. Ricky Williams pretty much turned into the invisible man after his 3 TD's...why did we stop going to him in the 2nd half? The officiating also sucked but that's life....good teams find a way to overcome bad calls.

This was as sickening a loss as I can remember....just like the Colt's game earlier this year. We need guys who can play 60 minutes of football. :rolleyes2:
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Number 3. kills me, I thought we learnt our lesson from abandoning the run. Where I'm alittle disappointed in some players today I can't blame them but I can blame Henning for putting Henne in an aweful situation instead of running the ball more. That quick toss to Williams was killing them and we completely stop doing it!!!!!

PP gets some blame here as well he stop the different looks we did in the first half and started to only rush 4 in crucial downs letting Brees pick us apart. Why?

Why get away from what works, we out coached ourselves today and let another great potential win go.
 
I just don't think I fault the coaches for "abandoning the run". We hardly had the ball in the second half, and every time that we tried to run the ball the Saints 100 percent completely stuffed it, other than that goal-line run. This amazing running game that everyone is talking about got a couple big plays at the beginning, and then the defense was all over it. I see no problem in going away from it. I said before the game that we were gonna need plays out of the passing game to win. Because of bad blocking and dropped passes, we weren't able to do enough to help our inexperienced QB.
 
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