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The Obsession With Tua Over Team Is Misguided

if we cut him before march 2025, what happens in terms of money due to him and cap hits, dead cap or otherwise?

As mentioned, Tua is fully guaranteed $93.1M at signing.

Tua’s salary on paper in 2024 was an extremely cap friendly $1.125M and first year $8.4M signing bonus, so he only counted a paltry $9.526M against the cap this season. “All in” if you will.

He’s still owed the other $83.6M fully guaranteed at signing from the remaining $33.6M of signing bonus that would accelerate instead of being evenly spread over the contract years, salary jumps to $25.046M for 2025, and his $25M option bonus for 2025.

That’s why website says his dead cap hit barely went down in 2025 to $83.6M.

The $9.526M and the $83.6M is the $93.1M fully guaranteed at signing.
 
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yes, and they are also undefeated because mahomes keeps coming up big at the end of these games when it matters most, including the last superbowl. both things matter!
You just make **** up eh. Here are some of the big games chiefs played in this year. Raiders and saints are omitted because you dont give a **** about tuas games against inferior competition.

Vs ravens - kc gets ball with 5 minutes left and end up punting back to ravens (sound familiar?). Ravens lose on an overturned TD at end of game

Vs bengals - down 2 with 9 min left, chiefs go 4 plays and have to punt. Fortunately for mahomes, burrow failed to kill the clock and had to punt it back. On 4th and 16 mahomes throws up a prayer and gets bailed out by an awful pass interference call.

Vs falcons - KC gets ball with 4 min left up 5 and goes three and out punting it back to the falcons. Chiefs defense stop the falcons on 4th and 1 at the KC 16 with 56 seconds left to win the game

Vs chargers - chiefs scored the go ahead TD with 6 min left and chiefs defense managed to stop herbert to win TD. He came through late here but scored 17 points total the entire game so pretty safe to say defense won this game as well. (Should mention tua put the dolphins up 9 with 12 mins left, but unfortunaly we dont have KCs defense and let up 2 TDs on the final 2 drives.

Vs 49ers - mahomes threw for 154 yards and 2 picks but lucky for him he didnt have to come up big at the end of the game because his defense had 3 interceptions on purdy. Mahomes had absolutely nothing to do with this victory, they won in spite of him.

Im sure i wont get a response from you because every time you are proven wrong you just ignore the post and continue rambling your BS. Your opinions are downright awful and you have zero knowledge about football.
 
You just make **** up eh. Here are some of the big games chiefs played in this year. Raiders and saints are omitted because you dont give a **** about tuas games against inferior competition.

Vs ravens - kc gets ball with 5 minutes left and end up punting back to ravens (sound familiar?). Ravens lose on an overturned TD at end of game

Vs bengals - down 2 with 9 min left, chiefs go 4 plays and have to punt. Fortunately for mahomes, burrow failed to kill the clock and had to punt it back. On 4th and 16 mahomes throws up a prayer and gets bailed out by an awful pass interference call.

Vs falcons - KC gets ball with 4 min left up 5 and goes three and out punting it back to the falcons. Chiefs defense stop the falcons on 4th and 1 at the KC 16 with 56 seconds left to win the game

Vs chargers - chiefs scored the go ahead TD with 6 min left and chiefs defense managed to stop herbert to win TD. He came through late here but scored 17 points total the entire game so pretty safe to say defense won this game as well. (Should mention tua put the dolphins up 9 with 12 mins left, but unfortunaly we dont have KCs defense and let up 2 TDs on the final 2 drives.

Vs 49ers - mahomes threw for 154 yards and 2 picks but lucky for him he didnt have to come up big at the end of the game because his defense had 3 interceptions on purdy. Mahomes had absolutely nothing to do with this victory, they won in spite of him.

Im sure i wont get a response from you because every time you are proven wrong you just ignore the post and continue rambling your BS. Your opinions are downright awful and you have zero knowledge about football.
The defense was quite good for the most part the end of last season, even after losing Chubb and Phillips. They more than held up their end of the bargain. Tua did not. Now back to my potato chips have a nice night!
 
The defense was quite good for the most part the end of last season, even after losing Chubb and Phillips. They more than held up their end of the bargain. Tua did not. Now back to my potato chips have a nice night!
ahh proven wrong so lets just revert back to losses mean QB = bad.
 
So you ARE trolling?
Richard Pryor Kinda GIF
 
I said this to Rick in the lockered thread but i feel like it's totally on topic so I'm putting it here too.

To the Dolphins fans that stand up for Tua all the time:

"Tua can't stay healthy... and he can't beat good teams.... and he isnt good at scrambling or late in games or in bad weather. And now he's trashing the fans, like we all just sit around like slobs, waiting on baited breath to watch him fumble the ball 3 times a game.

He does NOT deserve the staunch defense you all put up for him.

He doesn't care about any of you, AT ALL. He made that abundantly clear today.

Just stop, you don't owe him anything."
 
I said this to Rick in the lockered thread but i feel like it's totally on topic so I'm putting it here too.

To the Dolphins fans that stand up for Tua all the time:

"Tua can't stay healthy... and he can't beat good teams.... and he isnt good at scrambling or late in games or in bad weather. And now he's trashing the fans, like we all just sit around like slobs, waiting on baited breath to watch him fumble the ball 3 times a game.

He does NOT deserve the staunch defense you all put up for him.

He doesn't care about any of you, AT ALL. He made that abundantly clear today.

Just stop, you don't owe him anything."
You don't like him as a player or a person. Cool but why the need to try to convert people? People act like pro Tua is a cult but here is someone literally trying to convert people to join the other side.
 
I said this to Rick in the lockered thread but i feel like it's totally on topic so I'm putting it here too.

To the Dolphins fans that stand up for Tua all the time:

"Tua can't stay healthy... and he can't beat good teams.... and he isnt good at scrambling or late in games or in bad weather. And now he's trashing the fans, like we all just sit around like slobs, waiting on baited breath to watch him fumble the ball 3 times a game.

He does NOT deserve the staunch defense you all put up for him.

He doesn't care about any of you, AT ALL. He made that abundantly clear today.

Just stop, you don't owe him anything."
Whoever encouraged him to open up to the media he needs to re-learn the filter. Can't speak your mind all the time.
 
Whoever encouraged him to open up to the media he needs to re-learn the filter. Can't speak your mind all the time.
In this case tua's mind was wrong. Admit you made a bad play, and need to be better, and don't huck your teammate under the bus. See my prior re what brewer should do now
 
You don't like him as a player or a person. Cool but why the need to try to convert people? People act like pro Tua is a cult but here is someone literally trying to convert people to join the other side.
There is a portion of Tuas fans that are very much like a cult. And he no longer deserves such dedication.

He didn't just trash the Tua haters (which i have never been, i ride the middle) he trashed all of us, on every side. The left, the right and those in the middle. Basicly called us lazy unathletic slobs, who sit on a couch all day.

This guy (Tua) has never even worked a real job, a single day of his life.

I'll say it again, where does he get the nerve?
 
You don't like him as a player or a person. Cool but why the need to try to convert people? People act like pro Tua is a cult but here is someone literally trying to convert people to join the other side.
And you can go look, I've uttered the words "I love Tua off the field" proabably 50 times on here.

After today's statement.... not so much.
 
Its all well and good to say any QB needs a good coach and supporting cast to win. At the same time there's too much evidence that in order for a team to have any degree of sustained success it needs an elite QB. I don't know how you can fault fans for obsessing over this one player and one position. I think its great that we have Goff, Mayfield, Smith, Stafford, Cousins and Darnold all finding success after having been run out of town somewhere else. I do think it emphasizes the value of coaching and shows that the talent pool may not be as shallow as we often perceive it to be.

But its really hard to sell me on the fact that this is a viable path to follow and because we have so many of these guys flourishing next year there will another to be had. KC, Baltimore, Cincy, Buffalo and Houston go into every season knowing they have a shot because of the man under center. That still has to be the goal of any franchise. And with his injuries and play its really hard for fans to see Tua being that guy.
 
Who, specifically, are you referencing?

I don’t know of anyone who values Tua over the Dolphins.
There was a poster who created a thread that told everyone that Tua was getting the big dollar contract. Everyday that he pounded that point regardless of his illogical it was . That thread was what 35 +pages long ?

I think you can safely say that poster values Tua over the franchise .
 
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