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So here it is people.. i did the math and research and here is miami's playoff picture

As it stands we are in a 3 way tie for first place :up:

The surest way for us to make the playoffs is if we win out the season. Let me repeat IF WE WIN OUT, WE WIN THE DIVISION!
This is complicated because you really have to look at all the tie breaking procedures to get the complete picture here. If we win out we have a better record then the Jets obviously because we play them the last game. But even if the Pats win out and finish 11-5 we win in the tie breaking procedures. Since we both won one game it goes to Division record, but we would both be 5-2. So it goes best win-loss in common games played. And if we both win out we will both be 11-3. So then it goes to best conference record and that is where we got them. We will be 8-4 and NE 7-5. So if we win out we are all good.

Wildcard
The tricky part comes in if we finish 10-6. Currently Baltimore and Indy hold the 2 wildcard spots (at 9-4 each). We would need Baltimore to lose all three of their remaining games in order for us to move ahead of them because they beat us head to head. Also in order for us to move ahead of Indy, we would need them to lose all three of their remaining games. Even if they lose their last 2 conference games against JAC and TEN we would both be 10-6, and then say we win our last 2 conference games vs KC and NYJ we would both have the same Conference record at 8-4. But when u look at common games played they would be 5-0 when we are 2-3. Therefore we need them to lose out if we are gonna lose 1 more game. It is unlikely that either of these will happen but it may with Baltimore because they play PIT, Dallas, and then JAC.

Division with 10-6 record
This is were it gets extremely complicated. Ok lets start by looking at NYJ. It basically will come down to the last game vs them. The only way we can move past them while losing that game is if they lose their next two games vs buf and sea. But assuming they win those two games and we lose one of our next two and then beat NYJs it comes back down to the tie breaking. We would both be 10-6 with one win a piece. So it goes to division which if it plays out this way we will both be 4-2 in the division. Then it goes to common games won, and regardless of which we lose (if we do, between SF and KC) we will be 9-4 in common games while they are 8-5. So we will move past NYJ.

Now to NE... If NE loses any of their next three games (OAK, ARI, BUF) then all we have to do is not lose to KC or NYJ to maintain a lead over NE. And if we lose to KC instead of SF it will go to strength of victory then strength of schedule which i am not sure but i do not think we will win that tie breaker.

Summary (Playoff birth)
1) Win out
or
2) Lose to SF but win against KC and NYJ with 1 NE loss vs (OAK, ARI, BUF)
or
3) Loss to KC but win vs SF and NYJ and with NE losing vs OAK or BUF
or
4) Loss to NYJ but win vs SF and KC and with NYJ losing to Buf and SEA and NE losing to BUF
or
5) NE and NYJ lossing 2 of next three and Miami finishing 10-6
or
6) Lose two of next three and with NYJ and NE losing out
or
7) Baltimore or IND lose out

sheesh ok.. there it is enjoy :beer1:
 
and by the way the only way we can still win the division if we lose to NYJ is if we win the next two and then NE and NYJ lose 2 of next three
 
Nice work. It looks and seems complicated now, but I think after next week it'll be pretty simple. Its really divison or bust cause there is no way Indy or Baltimore are going to lose out. Both teams are playing well so it would make no sense for them just to completely fall apart.
 
I love when people arbitrarily stick the word "official" into a thread title.

I think I'll start the "official" thread about the shamwow.
 
I love when people arbitrarily stick the word "official" into a thread title.

I think I'll start the "official" thread about the shamwow.

What else do u want to call it.. others just stick it in.. but this IS the OFFICIAL miami playoff pic.. there is no other word for it this is OFFICIALLY what must happen for miami to make it
 
I love when people arbitrarily stick the word "official" into a thread title.

I think I'll start the "official" thread about the shamwow.

I know what you're saying, but in this case I don't have a problem with the use of the word "official".
 
That is a whole lot of different things that can happen. I think that the only sure thing at this point is Miami winning out. The schedule for the Pats and Jets are not difficult. As for Baltimore and Indy, Indy is a definite in with their schedule more likely, but Baltimore has a tough road ahead of them with Dallas and Pittsburgh coming up. The way it look though the Fins must win out!
 
That is a whole lot of different things that can happen. I think that the only sure thing at this point is Miami winning out. The schedule for the Pats and Jets are not difficult. As for Baltimore and Indy, Indy is a definite in with their schedule more likely, but Baltimore has a tough road ahead of them with Dallas and Pittsburgh coming up. The way it look though the Fins must win out!

yeah i agree.. but i also think #2 on that summary list is respectable.. plus it isnt WAY to far fetched for Baltimore to lose out.. cuz i think they will lose to pit and dallas.. and by then they should be out of the playoff pic neways with miami and NE on their heals so they may not be to motivated to play against JAC
 
Nice work. It looks and seems complicated now, but I think after next week it'll be pretty simple. Its really divison or bust cause there is no way Indy or Baltimore are going to lose out. Both teams are playing well so it would make no sense for them just to completely fall apart.

yeah it should all unfold hopefully by next week
 
3) Loss to KC but win vs SF and NYJ and with NE losing vs OAK and BUF
or
4) Loss to NYJ but win vs SF and KC and with NYJ losing to Buf and SEA and NE losing to BUF

Your rundown is close to what I posted last night but our calculations differ in one detail so it's probably worth figuring out which is correct.

If the Fins lose only to KC, I believe they still win the division if New England loses to Buffalo OR Oakland (losing both, as you have it in #3 above, isn't necessary). Here's why: If the loss is to the Bills, then Miami gains an edge in division record. If it's to Oakland, then we've both lost one more common game (so that stays tied), and we've both lost one more AFC game -- and since we hold an edge in that currently, we'd keep the edge and win that tiebreak.

I've just done a little further calculation, as well. If the Fins lose only to KC and the Pats lose only to Arizona, the tiebreak would go to 'strength of victory.' (This is the only scenario in which it would.) From having done this back in the years when Miami was in the hunt more often, I recall SOV being a pain in the butt to figure out and project. However, this year it happens to be very straightforward for a Fins-Pats tie, and there's good news.

If that scenario plays out, then Miami and New England will have beaten an identical list of teams except for two: San Diego for us, and Kansas City for them. With the Chargers now 5-8 and the Chiefs 2-11, it is impossible for Miami to lose this tiebreak. The worst that can happen is that KC wins out and SD loses out, making our SOV tied with New England and pushing the tiebreak to 'strength of schedule.' (I think we'd lose that, but haven't checked and it's unlikely to go that far anyway.)

So: any SD win or KC loss (ignore the KC-Miami game) means that the Fins win the division despite a loss to KC, if the Pats lose to Arizona. And that, in turn, would mean that Miami still wins the division at 10-6 despite a loss to KC as long as New England loses any other game.

In other words: Miami can lose to the 49ers OR Chiefs and still win the division at 10-6 as long as New England loses ANY game -- with only one exception, which is eliminated with a SD win or KC loss.

Also, in your #4 above, it's true that our losing to the Jets means that the Jets must lose their next two and the Pats must lose to the Bills -- but of course it also works if the Pats lose their next two and beat the Bills.

Finally, it's probably worth noting that none of the three teams can clinch the division before week 17 unless both other teams lose both their next two games.
 
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