Upshaw might not shine in this Senior Bowl setting. However, when he is put into a setting and a scheme he could thrive...
All this Upshaw talk is irreverent if we go 4-3.
All this Upshaw talk is irreverent if we go 4-3.
Yea I recall Kaep was lighting it up while Dalton wasn't. Here's a question I never got answered. Why was Gabbert rated so highly with such bad collegiate stats? He barely had more TDs thrown in his career than Chase Daniels did in one season.
I found it interesting tonight on NFL32 that they were talking the importance of hand size. Dilfer mention that it is an important measurement and Mort quoted Mike McCarthy has saying it is indicator off being able to play in all weather conditions wet and cold included.
I bet Foles steals the show for QB's. Foles and Tannehill will push for the 3rd QB in the draft.
Foles size is impressive and loved him as a junior. He did not get much help this year and was in the middle of a coaching change.
The issues with small hands for a quarterback surface long before playing in the elements is even a factor. It begins with taking the snap from under center, and Weeden did fumble his first one today.
The proper way to receive a snap from under center is your hand on the meat of the football. If you have trouble getting your hand around the meat of the football, the center has to compensate for it by turning the football a full 90 degrees as opposed to a 'stock' 1/4 turn. It can lead to a long term issue that will always affect being able to take snaps from under center without mishandled snaps creeping in at times.
Inclement weather or high pressure situations magnify it.
It's just something to pay attention to.....
if he continues to look the way he looked to me today in full pads when the men separate from the boys tomorrow and wednesday i'm thinking mike adams might be a 1st rounder...he towers over people and like i said i didn't see a waist bender despite that size...
i don't know...i know this...this draft to me is not the same level as the last 2 years...i think this drafts depth is lacking...i see a lot of guys who i don't think will help anyone in 2012...shrine bowl for my eyes was loaded with meh talent...senior bowl roster and north practice i saw few and far between...hopefully it will get better tomorrow...
dennard struggled with transitioning to his pedal and i think he lacks long speed...he was off balance all day...no wonder the guys so hands on...he has to be...quite overrated imo...amukamura last year had way better feet balance and hips...
leonard johnson is someone i've had my eye on but i thought today he had average feet and burst...i wanna see these guys in press mirror these wrs...and the north wrs...ehhhh...awful lot of guys running crap routes and lacking burst imo...
devier posey just the next garbage pro wr to come out of ohio st...the quick kid i thought was interesting til i saw him run routes...no burst or explosion there
stiff hips and meh prospects all over the place
Ingram is better from a 2-point stance than he is with his hand in the dirt. The thing about Ingram is that you don't have to pencil him in as "this" or "that". He can play a variety of roles because he has a rare combination of speed, athletic ability, weight, frame and strength. I think he can literally play 5 different roles in a front 7.
Keep in mind that we're not seeing guys like Nick Perry and Ronnell Lewis either until the combine.
If Upshaw doesn't get 8 sacks as a rookie I'll eat my hat. Somebody is going to surprise you and end up being as good as they appear to be in games.
Like I said, once you see the broad jump/vertical jump numbers from the combine, you'll be able to narrow down who the 10 sack candidates are.
A number of reasons. I don't agree with Slimm that it's just the Condon hype train. I don't think a plethora of professional scouts, coaches and GMs, guys that have been doing this longer and at a higher level than Slimm or myself could ever hope to, end up making these evaluations and decisions because of an agent.
Simply put, it's the dreaded 'P' word...potential.
Blaine Gabbert is a tall, clean and accurate thrower. You can get him in a practice setting and he'll pit the ace from 40 yards. He's got a photographic memory and a clean character profile. He's got athletic ability on that frame that is uncommon at the position. He sees the field well enough and can think quickly enough, has the confidence in his own throwing ability to throw players open.
When it comes to the offense and his lack of great games, you could certainly point to the lack of help, and a system that I think maybe some scouts hoped more than thought, just wasn't suited for him. Those receivers were pretty bad at times.
I think scouts envisioned him as a guy that maybe came out a year too early, but they were also pretty sure that if he returned for that year he'd end up looking a lot better.
I'm not trying to feed you any gimmicks or hype or anything like that. I'm just relating to you what the scouts actually thought about him, which I know through various contacts.
A number of reasons. I don't agree with Slimm that it's just the Condon hype train. I don't think a plethora of professional scouts, coaches and GMs, guys that have been doing this longer and at a higher level than Slimm or myself could ever hope to, end up making these evaluations and decisions because of an agent.
Simply put, it's the dreaded 'P' word...potential.
Blaine Gabbert is a tall, clean and accurate thrower. You can get him in a practice setting and he'll pit the ace from 40 yards. He's got a photographic memory and a clean character profile. He's got athletic ability on that frame that is uncommon at the position. He sees the field well enough and can think quickly enough, has the confidence in his own throwing ability to throw players open.
When it comes to the offense and his lack of great games, you could certainly point to the lack of help, and a system that I think maybe some scouts hoped more than thought, just wasn't suited for him. Those receivers were pretty bad at times.
I think scouts envisioned him as a guy that maybe came out a year too early, but they were also pretty sure that if he returned for that year he'd end up looking a lot better.
I'm not trying to feed you any gimmicks or hype or anything like that. I'm just relating to you what the scouts actually thought about him, which I know through various contacts.
I agree with this. When you told me to take a look at Ingram more and I did, I saw Adalius Thomas. That's who I liken him to at the next level. He doesn't have the arms or the frame to be a consistent pass rusher, and we have disagreements about the source of his incredible slowness off the snap, but if it's something structural and not something fixable, then once again I point to Adalius Thomas and Melvin's future as a large, versatile linebacker.
And 100% agreed on Upshaw. You and I talked about Pernell McPhee a lot last year. Upshaw is Pernell McPhee as a pass rusher but with Von Miller's linebacker skills added in. He's going to be a good player.