The Only Knock Against Tannehill Is Consistency...

[Krateness]

After the loss to New England I truthfully expected this place to turn back into Knockturn Alley, which it has. However, we are once again able to regain the wonderful presence of those who enjoy pleading their "I told you so" mentality off of one game that we all expected a loss from. So with that mentality of my own, I write this...

I constantly see people posting all of these things knocking Tannehill in terms of his skill set...

-No pocket awareness
-No deep ball
-No touch passing ability
-No fade passing ability
-No football IQ
-No ability to read a defense
-No ability to be clutch
-No ability to call audibles
-No ability to beat AFC East teams
-No ability to win when it counts

Going against the fact that we have all seen him do each and every single one of these things on the list, overcoming his "no ability" to do so, we must read how terrible he is. In reading all of these things from the same group of people who only decide to make an appearance on this forum is when they have the opportunity to lead on that their opinion is the superior one, the only knock against Tannehill I have ever been able to pin is his ability to be consistent. Now think about that word for a moment, consistency.

Steady, regular, unchanging, uniform, even, undeviating, constant. All synonyms to the word consistent.

Now, what has been consistent about the Miami Dolphins over Tannehill's 4 years here? Coaching? Line? Offensive Scheme? Offense?

It baffles me that everyone demands consistency when everything is constantly changing with this team year in year out. We can't even stay in a consistent offensive scheme for more than a week it seems. This week we run a balanced system, next week it's one dimensional again, all despite going against whatever formula we find that actually works for the players we have.

Everyone is pretty much on the same page in saying that Tannehill cannot completely cover the deficiencies of this team from week to week. He's not that player, however, how many players are there in the league right now that do that completely? Rodgers and Brady? 2 QBs in a league of 32?

Everyone has their own idea of how to fix the problems that exist within this team. Some say that we are fine at QB and others suggest we need to move on. At this point there really is no clear cut answer. However, those who believe a change is needed to realize that QB is not what is holding this team back and no other available QB coming in is going to right this ship.

If you want to truly know what you have in a player, you give him the best opportunity for success so that you can and judge him accordingly.

As of right now, Miami has done nothing to truly help Ryan Tannehill. You could only argue that they tried to upgrade the receiving core and with the production we have seen thus far in the season, I can't put much weight in that.

If you want to see consistency from Tannehill, provide him with more consistency in what he has to work with...

 

[Tureo]

People are saying that he is average which his inconsistency proves. If he were consistent he would be the top 10 QB people want him to be.

 

[JJM_7]

What's hilarious to me is how many posters on this site only show up when the team loses. When we're winning, they're nowhere to be found. Isn't that weird?

I get the frustration with Ryan, I do, but all we hear is how with a different QB, this same Miami Dolphins team would be better, and I'm not sure that holds true.

I mean, sure, with a Tom Brady, an Aaron Rodgers, maybe a Ben Rothlisberger, this team with all of its deficiencies would still be able to win games. But other than that, I look around the league and see a lot QBs struggling, good QBs too. And all I can think of is how there are very few QBs out there that can overcome their team's weaknesses. Very. few.

And yet we want to give up on Ryan cause just like 95% of the QBs in the league he can't overcome a bad OL, a non-existent running game, a one dimentional offense? That's what doesn't make sense to me.

 

[phishxhead]

Give it up. He doesn't have it.

 

[Kdawg954]

What's hilarious to me is how many posters on this site only show up when the team loses. When we're winning, they're nowhere to be found. Isn't that weird?

I get the frustration with Ryan, I do, but all we hear is how with a different QB, this same Miami Dolphins team would be better, and I'm not sure that holds true.

I mean, sure, with a Tom Brady, an Aaron Rodgers, maybe a Ben Rothlisberger, this team with all of its deficiencies would still be able to win games. But other than that, I look around the league and see a lot QBs struggling, good QBs too. And all I can think of is how there are very few QBs out there that can overcome their team's weaknesses. Very. few.

And yet we want to give up on Ryan cause just like 95% of the QBs in the league he can't overcome a bad OL, a non-existent running game, a one dimentional offense? That's what doesn't make sense to me.

Two way street . . . . several hard core Tanne can't do no wrongers who have decided to take the week off but were quick to shove down our throat the completion record last week.

I just can't stand the extremes. Take him as an average QB, and hope it's enough to play in the post season in a weak AFC this year. Stop telling me he ain't the answer and he sucks . . . and stop telling me he's better than guys who have accomplished much more in this league. He's average and he's ours for the next 2 years at minimum . . . good luck finding better (speaking indirectly to everybody . . . not directly to you)

 

[roy_miami]

-No pocket awareness
-No deep ball
-No touch passing ability
-No fade passing ability
-No football IQ
-No ability to read a defense
-No ability to be clutch
-No ability to call audibles
-No ability to beat AFC East teams
-No ability to win when it counts.

Good list. Only thing I would add is he's not aggressive enough, and he's too inconsistent.

 

[AL R]

Two way street . . . . several hard core Tanne can't do no wrongers who have decided to take the week off but were quick to shove down our throat the completion record last week.

I just can't stand the extremes. Take him as an average QB, and hope it's enough to play in the post season in a weak AFC this year. Stop telling me he ain't the answer and he sucks . . . and stop telling me he's better than guys who have accomplished much more in this league. He's average and he's ours for the next 2 years at minimum . . . good luck finding better (speaking indirectly to everybody . . . not directly to you)

I would said that's fair Kdawg.

 

[JJM_7]

Two way street . . . . several hard core Tanne can't do no wrongers who have decided to take the week off but were quick to shove down our throat the completion record last week.

Fair enough. Both extremes are bad. Though I still believe it's more apparent when the team loses, but that's just my opinion.

 

[Sirspud]

If you say that's the only knock I'm not even gonna read your post.

 

[gofins60]

What's hilarious to me is how many posters on this site only show up when the team loses. When we're winning, they're nowhere to be found. Isn't that weird?


And yet we want to give up on Ryan cause just like 95% of the QBs in the league he can't overcome a bad OL, a non-existent running game, a one dimentional offense? That's what doesn't make sense to me.

I'm consistent... I've been complaining about Philbin, his staff, and the style of offense and defense they run ever since Joe was hired. It didn't matter if Philbin won or lost, I always had a complaint about something! Now that Philbin and Coyle are gone, I still have plenty of reasons to complain: Lazor is still there, they're still running the same offense and defense, Campbell showed that establishing a running game helps Tannehill and the passing game but they gave up on the run too soon against the Pats, and the holes they had at the end of last season (needed upgrades at LB, DB, and OL) still have not been filled due to a GM and Front Office that refused to do their job.

As for giving up on Tannehill: I'm not a fan of his, and don't think he will ever be very good; at best he might be a game manager type QB. IMO, to get the most out of Tannehill they need to give him a big, strong, solid o-line so he'd have more time to look downfield and find some of those open receivers, and a power running game so he wouldn't have to throw as much. The problem is that the personnel people either can't or won't build a good o-line (some blame must go to Philbin for wanting a certain type of lineman that apparently isn't very effective after all), and the style of offense that Philbin and Lazor run places little to no emphasis on a strong running game. In other words, for Tannehill to have a chance to succeed, Ross needs to clean house. But, knowing how Ross only takes half-measures and makes poor personnel decisions, a housecleaning will never happen.

 

[Bob512]

Two way street . . . . several hard core Tanne can't do no wrongers who have decided to take the week off but were quick to shove down our throat the completion record last week.

I just can't stand the extremes. Take him as an average QB, and hope it's enough to play in the post season in a weak AFC this year. Stop telling me he ain't the answer and he sucks . . . and stop telling me he's better than guys who have accomplished much more in this league. He's average and he's ours for the next 2 years at minimum . . . good luck finding better (speaking indirectly to everybody . . . not directly to you)

Definitely too many extremes.....

I'm a RT fan and believes he has more upside than downside. He can be very successful in a balanced offense which we have seen and his numbers have improved every year. There is a long way to go this year.....so I'll pass my judgement of him at year end.

Nobody is going to change their opinion based on these endless threads about RT.....

 

[phishxhead]

The upside is that maybe he gets to the playoffs before choking the downside is that he is 7-9 forever. He isn't championship material and the sooner he is replaced the sooner we can find someone who is.

 

[hoops]

Hes not average and if you watched the rest of the league you'd probably realize that...or maybe if you understood situational football and the impact of the scoreboard you would

 

[Regulus]

Hes not average and if you watched the rest of the league you'd probably realize that...or maybe if you understood situational football and the impact of the scoreboard you would

You are right. He's more below average. Average qbs would of been able to win one of the games we needed the last couple years to get in the playoffs.

 

[hoops]

You are right. He's more below average. Average qbs would of been able to win one of the games we needed the last couple years to get in the playoffs.

You only had one shot a couple years ago and you damn sure werent beating buffalo with an average qb that week 16 in buffalo...the jets game is really the only one that could even qualify...so even if i disagree with your assessment of that game being completely on the qb he's 0 for 1...thats some sample size for you to draw conclusions from