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The Players.

Now that I've back away from the ledge. I had 48 hrs to let it all sink in. This was lost was solely on the players. Let's start with the fact the same garbage ass coaches, has us leading the league in 3rd quarter points. We had the lead in the 4th quarter against the best QB in the league. It's 2nd and 8 with a little over 3 minutes left. We stay aggressive and decide to pass, a free man comes right through the B gap, blowing by our Probowler,  and if it's not for Tannehill athletic abilities,  he gets sack in loses 10 yards. So the case could be made, do we pass again on 3rd and 8?. Whatever your answer to that fine. So now, we bring in our probowl punter and he has a 23 yard net punt. I'm sure if we knew that would be the end result, we would have done it differently.

So here's what happens next, our pass rush get to Rodgers twice and put him on a 4th down situation. Our Probowl CB, slips and falls. Cortland Finnegan whine decided to give 5 million dollars, falls for a fake spike, but fail to bring his man down in bounds. Now, that left the third highest paid player in the team on a one on one with situation.  He himself said he knew they would be throwing the ball his way. And what does he do, not a god damn thing.

I'm over it now, and if things continue to go the way it is, changes are coming again. And this cycle of will continue to take years out of our lives..
 
Same thread every day. Loss is on so and so
We lost everyone is responsible.
In this league teams with great QBs can mask deficiencies in other areas. We cannot. We have bad HC, capable coordinators, below avg qb, and above average talent overall. Not a recipe for winning consistently
 
In most cases, close losses are attributed to coaching decisions. It's the complete blowout losses that you can attribute to physical mismatched and discrepancy of talent on the field.


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I don't agree that it's only on the players. The players share the blame but so the coaches. Yes, the players didn't execute. We needed just one play out of seven or eight and none of the players on our team was able to make that play.

On the other hand, the coaches did not put them in the best position to win. We barely score points or move the chains in the first half in all games but Oakland this season. And right after halftime it magically works? That can't be on the players. We also have a coaching issue.

Bottom line is, that's the difference between a good and an average team: players making plays when it counts, coaches putting them in a position to make plays. That Green Bay team we lost to last Sunday isn't a very good team. If you want to make the playoffs, those are the games you have to win. I have zero confidence any more that this is a Miami Dolphins playoff season.
 
This will be extremely unpopular with some here:
In my opinion some of the first half offensive struggles can be explained pretty simply.
In the first half we have just a gameplan to go on. We need the qb to make the proper read, or go through a progression if his first read is not there (He cannot do this well enough/ quick enough)
At the half Lazor is able to recognize what will and will not put the QB in better positions to execute. In other words make adjustments based on the defense. He can do his best to mask the qb's inability to come off his first read and stare down receivers.
Lazor can dictate what plays have a better chance of the first read, for a one read qb being a success.
I also, think the qb plays better when he gets something going. So once Lazor dumbs it down and dials up plays where primary is open the offense starts moving.

I am ready to get trashed by RT's fanboys. have at it
 
slk018 said:
Same thread every day. Loss is on so and so
We lost everyone is responsible.
In this league teams with great QBs can mask deficiencies in other areas. We cannot. We have bad HC, capable coordinators, below avg qb, and above average talent overall. Not a recipe for winning consistently
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Seriously getting tired of the great QBs argument. There are maybe four of them in the league right now. Everyone of them has a loss or more. Most teams (and these teams have won recent Super Bowls) win as teams. Teams that do have a signature strength. Be it a running game, a D line, or whatever. Miami's biggest problem right now is that we are basically average everywhere. Not one area to count on to take over a game. Our O drives and scores after the D has held tight all game, then the D lays an egg.
 
slk018 said:
This will be extremely unpopular with some here:
In my opinion some of the first half offensive struggles can be explained pretty simply.
In the first half we have just a gameplan to go on. We need the qb to make the proper read, or go through a progression if his first read is not there (He cannot do this well enough/ quick enough)
At the half Lazor is able to recognize what will and will not put the QB in better positions to execute. In other words make adjustments based on the defense. He can do his best to mask the qb's inability to come off his first read and stare down receivers.
Lazor can dictate what plays have a better chance of the first read, for a one read qb being a success.
I also, think the qb plays better when he gets something going. So once Lazor dumbs it down and dials up plays where primary is open the offense starts moving.

I am ready to get trashed by RT's fanboys. have at it
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I'm not an RT fan boy...I would say I'm indifferent now and I root for all the players every week unlike some on here who root against players so they can come on here and say "I told you so". Regardless...are you saying Tannehill is ineffective in the first half because he stares down his first read but in the second half he's effective even though he still stares down his first read?

Boy if you don't like Tannehill staring down his first read wait till you see the 2015 QB draft class lol.
 
Who has more overall talent Miami or Green Bay?
Miami or Indy?
Miami or NE?

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datruth55 said:
I'm not an RT fan boy...I would say I'm indifferent now and I root for all the players every week unlike some on here who root against players so they can come on here and say "I told you so". Regardless...are you saying Tannehill is ineffective in the first half because he stares down his first read but in the second half he's effective even though he still stares down his first read?

Boy if you don't like Tannehill staring down his first read wait till you see the 2015 QB draft class lol.
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No I am saying after Lazor has a chance to adjust his first read is open more often. It isn't like he suddenly becomes a complete qb. The playcalling/ matchup adjustments make it easier for a robotic qb to succeed after in game adjustments are made by the OC
 
Players and coaches are equally responsible. But it does seem unfair that all of the attention has been on just the coaches.
 
slk018 said:
This will be extremely unpopular with some here:
In my opinion some of the first half offensive struggles can be explained pretty simply.
In the first half we have just a gameplan to go on. We need the qb to make the proper read, or go through a progression if his first read is not there (He cannot do this well enough/ quick enough)
At the half Lazor is able to recognize what will and will not put the QB in better positions to execute. In other words make adjustments based on the defense. He can do his best to mask the qb's inability to come off his first read and stare down receivers.
Lazor can dictate what plays have a better chance of the first read, for a one read qb being a success.
I also, think the qb plays better when he gets something going. So once Lazor dumbs it down and dials up plays where primary is open the offense starts moving.

I am ready to get trashed by RT's fanboys. have at it
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I think you could have a point here. The plays in the 1st half are more or less scripted to see how the defense reacts on certain stuff. In the 2nd half, Lazor calls the plays that work best against that particular defense.
 
Spiff said:
I think you could have a point here. The plays in the 1st half are more or less scripted to see how the defense reacts on certain stuff. In the 2nd half, Lazor calls the plays that work best against that particular defense.
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Thanks,
I won't pretend my delivery makes it easy to get my point across. But, I am glad you understand what I was saying.
I considered starting a thread on the topic and giving my opinion, but we have enough who to blame, and qb threads
 
I would be interested to hear what some folks think about above. To me it is definitely one of the reasons for the disparity between forst half play and 2nd half on offense.
 
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