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Yes, we got our ass kicked soundly yesterday! It happens to every team (even great ones) once in awhile. I'm actually happy this happened now, rather then later in the season. It will give Grier/Flo an opportunity to review and make adjustments to move forward.

1. Tua - Impossible to get a read on his development yet. He has strengths and flaws. He's not our savior, and he shouldn't be! Marino was the perfect QB but we never won a SB because we relied too much on him and not the surrounding pieces. This is a team sport. We must support Tua, allow him to grow, but also review his progress with fair criticism. By seasons end, we should know if he's our long term solution or if we need to bring in competition.

2. OL - In my opinion our biggest challenge, flaw and frustration - We simply must be better. I preach patience, but I'm also realistic enough to see that this line needs 1-2 quality veterans to mentor our puppies (and they are playing like puppies). We really need to address this in the offseason and also in the draft. Unless Jackson has dramatic improvement, in the next 2 games, then we need to put Eich at LT.

3. DL - We are soft in the middle. R. Davis might be the answer but Wilkins hasn't shown anything more then being average. We need an absolute mammoth beast in the middle. Again look to the draft.

4. DE/OLB - we aren't getting enough pressure/sacks. Ogbah is solid but Phillips hasn't shown any violent intent. It was frustration seeing Rousseax be much more impactful. Phillips is a smart player, and hopefully can show he has "dawg" in him.

5. RB - Average. Impossible to judge with our OL. Need to try more sweeps as we get no OL push up the middle.

6. We are blessed at Cornerback and Safety and pretty good at Inside Linebacker.

7. Receivers - Waddle is a stud. The rest are average to good.

I realize this is only 2 games in. My confidence in Flores remains steadfast. He might not show his displeasure with how things went but I'm sure he will be relentless in improving the squad. I still see us getting into the playoffs at 10-7. Phins Up!
 
I agree with most of your points. Where I disagree is on Tua and our playoff chances this year. I think I’ve seen enough to know that Tua is not the answer for us at QB, as much as I would like him to be. I also don’t think we get to 10 wins this season. Lucky if we break even.
 
LibertineOneThree said:
You think we’re going to win 10 games after that absolute torrential river of crap yesterday? Goodness me I wish I had your optimism my friend - life would be a much brighter place!
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I do indeed. I ever think we are as good as most here do after a victory, nor do I plummet to the depth of disparity with a loss. Cheers mate! And my best to you in the UK. Some of the best and bravest people in the world.
 
Jamesw said:
I do indeed. I ever think we are as good as most here do after a victory, nor do I plummet to the depth of disparity with a loss. Cheers mate! And my best to you in the UK. Some of the best and bravest people in the world.
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An admirable approach for sure my friend! I’d usually subscribe to that approach but finding it really hard after yesterday. Hopefully we see a reaction next week and you’re proved right. Fins up.
 
The path forward starts with our next game. That was ugly but it still only counts as one loss. Time to put out big boy pants on and move to week three.

I really don't think Brissett is a drop-off from Tua, or if he is its really not by enough to impact games at this point.

Regardless of who is starting the line needs to play better, and they can't be confused by basic looks. It was embarrassing.
 
Why is anybody suprised the team got a kicking? It's not like our team are a perennial playoff team every season. This team is not good enough. They have decent players but when you neglect the OLine that much year after year it will only end up bad. Wiffing on blocks and not being able to have a decent running game week after week is down to players not being good enough/poor coaching and poor drafting.
 
fugawzi said:
I agree with most of your points. Where I disagree is on Tua and our playoff chances this year. I think I’ve seen enough to know that Tua is not the answer for us at QB, as much as I would like him to be. I also don’t think we get to 10 wins this season. Lucky if we break even.
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The fact that Brissett came in and the team still imploded should illustrate that our biggest issue(s) on offense is not QB related. The OL was less effective than a subway turnstile yesterday. There were multiple crucial drops, fumbles and special team errors that lead to points. Anyone who saw the last super bowl should know even the best QB in the NFL can’t play when the OL continuously lets free rushers in (KC scored what, 3 points that game?).
 
The issue with his offense for the past decade to 20 years minus a few years with Long and Igcognito teams has been the lack of talent in the trenches.

Most thought Tannehill sucked, and yes he has flaws, but since he has gone to a team with a good line and a very good RB he is more like the 2016 THill we saw in a dolphins uniform.

With Tua, I think it's a growing curve for him to go from a stacked Bama team to the Miami Dolphins who just cleared house the prior year. No offensive line, no running attack and the receivers outside of Waddle and a healthy Parker are just guys. Gesicki is good but is poor in the blocking department.

The Bills have a stout front 7. They expose this team cause our line can't win opening holes for the RB or providing 3 seconds for Tua to at least get 2 reads. Their secondary can be very aggressive when they know the front 7 will be in the QB's face and the ball has to come out asap. Safeties don't have to be 30 yards back.

Until this team fixes the line, we will see more of the same against teams with strong front 7's.
 
You thought this was bad wait to you see what the Raiders are gonna do to us it’s gonna be another blowout this team is completely ****ed. Well **** the team I mean the fans are completely ****ed.

20 ****ing years and you can’t draft one ****ing quarterback you pathetic **** ****ing franchise. This team makes me sick they don’t know how to draft a quarterback they don’t know how to draft a running back they don’t know how to draft ****ing **** **** them ****ing losers sick of being embarrassed on ****ing Mondays when I show up to work everyone sitting there laughing at me.
 
Jamesw said:
Yes, we got our *** kicked soundly yesterday! It happens to every team (even great ones) once in awhile. I'm actually happy this happened now, rather then later in the season. It will give Grier/Flo an opportunity to review and make adjustments to move forward.

1. Tua - Impossible to get a read on his development yet. He has strengths and flaws. He's not our savior, and he shouldn't be! Marino was the perfect QB but we never won a SB because we relied too much on him and not the surrounding pieces. This is a team sport. We must support Tua, allow him to grow, but also review his progress with fair criticism. By seasons end, we should know if he's our long term solution or if we need to bring in competition.

2. OL - In my opinion our biggest challenge, flaw and frustration - We simply must be better. I preach patience, but I'm also realistic enough to see that this line needs 1-2 quality veterans to mentor our puppies (and they are playing like puppies). We really need to address this in the offseason and also in the draft. Unless Jackson has dramatic improvement, in the next 2 games, then we need to put Eich at LT.

3. DL - We are soft in the middle. R. Davis might be the answer but Wilkins hasn't shown anything more then being average. We need an absolute mammoth beast in the middle. Again look to the draft.

4. DE/OLB - we aren't getting enough pressure/sacks. Ogbah is solid but Phillips hasn't shown any violent intent. It was frustration seeing Rousseax be much more impactful. Phillips is a smart player, and hopefully can show he has "dawg" in him.

5. RB - Average. Impossible to judge with our OL. Need to try more sweeps as we get no OL push up the middle.

6. We are blessed at Cornerback and Safety and pretty good at Inside Linebacker.

7. Receivers - Waddle is a stud. The rest are average to good.

I realize this is only 2 games in. My confidence in Flores remains steadfast. He might not show his displeasure with how things went but I'm sure he will be relentless in improving the squad. I still see us getting into the playoffs at 10-7. Phins Up!
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10 wins lmao! Don’t give up your day job.
 
So we can't win 10 games because we got our butt kicked by the Bills? Ya'll realize we got out butt kicked last year by Buffalo and won 10 games last year. Ya'll further realize that we won't be playing the Bills every single game. Nothing says the NFL is back like weekly overreactions.
 
superphin said:
So we can't win 10 games because we got our butt kicked by the Bills? Ya'll realize we got out butt kicked last year by Buffalo and won 10 games last year. Ya'll further realize that we won't be playing the Bills every single game. Nothing says the NFL is back like weekly overreactions.
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Have you not seen how unprepared and lack of skill that we have? Get your head out of the clouds and wake up. This team is not winning 10 games unless we play the Jags 10 times. We are only going to win 5 to 6 games.
 
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