The Problem With the Final Drive

[Shouright]

...as I see it is that we ran two plays out of four (the two fade patterns) that depended on the timing between only two players on offense. They were plays that had only one option for success. If we were going to pass, I would've rather run a play-action bootleg with Frerotte that had multiple targets on the play, including one all the way back across the field.

Fake the handoff to Ricky and have Ronnie in a pass pattern the flat, McMichael behind him in the end zone, a WR on a crossing route through the middle of the end zone, and Diamond or another TE in the end zone on the other side. Make it look like run with the two TE set, and then pass it in. With the bootleg rollout, Frerotte is a threat to run it in, and he has multiple targets throughout the end zone.

As it was those fade patterns put the game in the hands of only TWO guys and totally limited our options.

 

[alopez34]

great post i agree exactly the first three plays only had one option

 

[twanderer]

How Bout Just Running The Ball On 1st And Goal At Least One Time Wtf!!!!

 

[PerfectFinz72]

...as I see it is that we ran two plays out of four (the two fade patterns) that depended on the timing between only two players on offense. They were plays that had only one option for success. If we were going to pass, I would've rather run a play-action bootleg with Frerotte that had multiple targets on the play, including one all the way back across the field.

Fake the handoff to Ricky and have Ronnie in a pass pattern the flat, McMichael behind him in the end zone, a WR on a crossing route through the middle of the end zone, and Diamond or another TE in the end zone on the other side. Make it look like run with the two TE set, and then pass it in. With the bootleg rollout, Frerotte is a threat to run it in, and he has multiple targets throughout the end zone.

As it was those fade patterns put the game in the hands of only TWO guys and totally limited our options.

Good post, though hindsight is 20/20. If we hit the second fade to CC, no one complains about the play call or even so much as questions it. I guess we as fans tend to question plays when they don't work which is normal. Good job on the post though.

 

[Wildbill3]

WE never should've been in postition to have to make that last touchdown, our O didn't let us down, the D let us down by letting the pats score that last touchdown.

 

[CaptainK]

On the two fade patterns the receivers couldn't see the ball because they were looking into the sun. In the post-game interview Booker said he saw the ball only at the last second and said that Chambers couldn't see the ball at all. It was obvious when you saw the angle of the shadows from the players on the field.

 

[Jimi]

Good post, though hindsight is 20/20. If we hit the second fade to CC, no one complains about the play call or even so much as questions it. I guess we as fans tend to question plays when they don't work which is normal. Good job on the post though.

I always question calls i dont agree with no matetr the outcome.

For example, i think it was a rather bad idea for Gruden to go for 2 in the Wash game. Although it worked, the Bucs O-Line has been pitiful at getting push, and if LaVar Arrington made an attempt to tackle Allstot instead of making some rediculous flying leap he most likley would have stopped him.

 

[Fudge 101]

I always question calls i dont agree with no matetr the outcome.

For example, i think it was a rather bad idea for Gruden to go for 2 in the Wash game. Although it worked, the Bucs O-Line has been pitiful at getting push, and if LaVar Arrington made an attempt to tackle Allstot instead of making some rediculous flying leap he most likley would have stopped him.

Yeah, I also thought that the KC play was risky. Sure the OL is great but its all or nothing when you can settle in the middle. The dolphins made a few bad calls. But if you think about it, it keeps us from yelling about the talent we have. Im starting to get sick of the cut reggie howard threads even though he should...but thats another story..:fire:

 

[FiN FaN KeViN]

poor play callin on the last drive u had the over throw which should of been a defenceive pass interference then the the the pass to ronnie then the incomplete then the droped pass by chambers in the endzone. they should of started running it from the 1st play when they where on like the 5 yd line

 

[WestCoastPhins]

WE never should've been in postition to have to make that last touchdown, our O didn't let us down, the D let us down by letting the pats score that last touchdown.

That right there is the answer. Reggie Howard let us down. Cause once he gave that play he gave uo 3 points. And realistically the touchdown was a better option, than a last minute field goal. Although we should have stopped the 2pt conversion. If not for that we would be talking today about how Chambers had 2 TD plays and we are in 1st.

 

[Shouright]

That right there is the answer. Reggie Howard let us down. Cause once he gave that play he gave uo 3 points. And realistically the touchdown was a better option, than a last minute field goal. Although we should have stopped the 2pt conversion. If not for that we would be talking today about how Chambers had 2 TD plays and we are in 1st.

Howard made a good play by simply being on the ball. Belichick outcoached Saban on that one -- we had a run blitz on and he called a pass that would take advantage of our having no deep safety back versus the fastest guy on their team (Dwight).

 

[Finshizzle]

Why are we depending so much on the passing game in critical situations? and a lot of them have been on short yardage situations, we had 4 downs at the 5 yd line, can we at least run one or two running plays? we have two of the best backs in the league, i don't blame the players because it is very difficult to perform under such extreme circumstances (i.e. against the sun, game is on the line, very good defense) i blame the coaching staff for not mixing the plays, its not like we had no time, we had plenty of time to run it. its a shame we lost, it's starting to look a lot like last season, very close games and we come out on the losing side.

 

[BuffaloFinfan]

If we were going to pass, I would've rather run a play-action bootleg with Frerotte that had multiple targets on the play, including one all the way back across the field.

Frerotte on a bootleg? He can't even plant his feet properly IN the pocket, so how could he possibly throw the ball on the run?

 

[Shouright]

Frerotte on a bootleg? He can't even plant his feet properly IN the pocket, so how could he possibly throw the ball on the run?

Did you see the pass Chambers dropped in the first half? Well this would've been a six-yarder instead of a 46-yarder.

 

[BuffaloFinfan]

Did you see the pass Chambers dropped in the first half? Well this would've been a six-yarder instead of a 46-yarder.

I saw the last pass. If he plants and throws, the ball hits Chambers in the chest, not his feet. Frerotte is a vet not a rookie, he should know this by now. End of story.